Nick Cave

[CaledonianGonzo]

On 10/20/2024 at 12:58 PM, Nicklord said:

Nick Cave: "I just feel – and I'm no friend of the government of Israel – but I just feel on some level that I find it difficult to come to terms with using my music in order to punish ordinary people because of the acts of their government." 

 

Some people online: "You genocide enthusiast!"

 

But then after Russia invaded Ukraine he cancelled concerts in Moscow, suggesting he absolutely will "punish ordinary people because of the acts of their government" if it suits him.

 

So at very best he's a complete hypocrite on this matter 

[Nicklord]

5 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

But then after Russia invaded Ukraine he cancelled concerts in Moscow, suggesting he absolutely will "punish ordinary people because of the acts of their government" if it suits him.

 

So at very best he's a complete hypocrite on this matter 

He cancelled shows in Ukraine and Russia just as the full on war started. I really think they should've risked their lives and go straight to Kyiv as bombs fall down just so you don't think they're hypocrites 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, Nicklord said:

He cancelled shows in Ukraine and Russia just as the full on war started. I really think they should've risked their lives and go straight to Kyiv as bombs fall down just so you don't think they're hypocrites 

 

I didn't say a thing about Kyiv.  Perfectly understandable to cancel there.

[russycarps]

Western artists can't play in Russia due to having to navigate sanctions. 

 

Israel is not subject to any meaningful sanctions.

 

This is obvious stuff.

[CaledonianGonzo]

16 minutes ago, russycarps said:

Western artists can't play in Russia due to having to navigate sanctions. 

 

Israel is not subject to any meaningful sanctions.

 

This is obvious stuff.

 

No.  Sanctions didn't stop him playing - he opted to boycott 'in light of current events'

[majormajormajor]

On 10/21/2024 at 10:49 AM, majormajormajor said:

 

Eh? Jack the Ripper is a classic 'wall of sound' Bad Seeds live track. They'd probably end up opening with Bright Horses or something.

 

They should make festival sets 'bangers night'. Something like:

 

Jubilee Street

Hiding All Away

From Her to Eternity

Tupelo

Papa Won't Leave You Henry

Jack the Ripper

Midnight Man

Mercy Seat

Higgs Boson Blues

Red Right Hand

Do You Love Me?

Weeping Song

Stagger Lee

/edit

 

Encore:

No Pussy Blues

[4AssedMonkey]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

No.  Sanctions didn't stop him playing - he opted to boycott 'in light of current events'

Yeah. But when “recent events” are missile & drone strikes and a full ground invasion by a world superpower, I’d f**king cancel in a heartbeat.

[Superscally]

13 hours ago, MichaelsBeard said:

Selling a standing ticket for Leeds if anyone wants first dibs before I stick it on Twickets 

How much chief?

[Superscally]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

No.  Sanctions didn't stop him playing - he opted to boycott 'in light of current events'

I imagine visas weren't exactly easy to come by, either. 

[russycarps]

So that's:

 

Sanctions

Visa issues

Westerners getting thrown in prison on jumped up charges

War

Western airlines banned from Russian air space.

 

But he is scum for not playing gigs there. 

 

Come on now.... 

 

 

[homesick]

2 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

No.  Sanctions didn't stop him playing - he opted to boycott 'in light of current events'

Cry, cry, cry

[CaledonianGonzo]

52 minutes ago, Superscally said:

I imagine visas weren't exactly easy to come by, either. 

 

12 minutes ago, russycarps said:

So that's:

 

Sanctions

Visa issues

Westerners getting thrown in prison on jumped up charges

War

Western airlines banned from Russian air space.

 

But he is scum for not playing gigs there. 

 

Come on now.... 

 

 

 

Now you're just making things up.

 

Someone called him on it in a Red Hand Files here: https://www.theredhandfiles.com/a-few-days-ago/ and you can read his justification for why he thinks all boycotts are wrong except for some boycotts.  Personally I think it's weak AF - his point about complexity is lazy and recycled ad nauseum by apartheid apologists - and assume if he'd been able to he'd have also played Sun City for a fat bag.

 

All of which is just on example of the broader point - that in 2025, the Cavester - with his Unherd interviews, his fondness for Andrew Sullivan and his boomer views on political correctness and cancel culture - is hardly edgy and he approaches things with the countercultural edge and outsider's perspective of a Mail reader.