OPTIMUS ALIVE´14

[Mokes]

"Ticket tout" is a British term for a scalper, someone who engages in ticket resale for more than the face value of the ticket.

Touts are scumbags, that's a universal fact. Viagogo, Seatwave etc are all vultures and as bad as touts.

I can't understand why you're taking exception to being called a scumbag tout, when you're clearly a scumbag tout..

If you don't want to be a scumbag tout, sell the tickets at face value.

Edited June 17, 2014 by Mokes

[Prawnofthedead]

Viagogo, Seatwave etc dont agree, i trust them and if a ticket has sold out, i would gladly buy from them, for an increased price.

In the same way a unique one off painting increases in value the more rare it gets, then so do tickets that are no longer available through normal channels.

If i collect a rare transformers vintage toy for example - once it cost around £30 (in 1985) now it is worth £800..i would still but it, because i want it and it is rare/unattainable.

That does not make me a scumbag for selling , just a facilitator for something that has been made rare by the general publics demand I have x2 tickets for christs sake - not 20.

Scalper? don't be such a drama queen...you dramatic wordssmith you.

[Mokes]

Viagogo, Seatwave etc dont agree, i trust them and if a ticket has sold out, i would gladly buy from them, for an increased price.

In the same way a unique one off painting increases in value the more rare it gets, then so do tickets that are no longer available through normal channels.

If i collect a rare transformers vintage toy for example - once it cost around £30 (in 1985) now it is worth £800..i would still but it, because i want it and it is rare/unattainable.

That does not make me a scumbag for selling , just a facilitator for something that has been made rare by the general publics demand I have x2 tickets for christs sake - not 20.

Scalper? don't be such a drama queen...you dramatic wordssmith you.

Haha a ticket to a music festival is not a one off piece of art though is it. A ticket to a music festival does not become a valuable antique.

a scalper is not a dramatic word, It's the same as tout. Just in a different country.

Here is a little documentary about Viagogo and co

My mind is totally blown that you can not see what is wrong with what you're doing..

[Prawnofthedead]

it becomes more valuable when it sells out - more desirable, exactly the same principle - its all about what it means to a person, not what the object is.

there is no clear right and wrong here, just peoples opinions, if someone chooses top pay more for a ticket, that is up to them, not you - i would pay more for a ticket from someone if the ticket was sold out - its quite simple really.

I would understand if i was selling 100 tickets, but x2 tickets becuae i have chosen not to go to the festival - its hardly the great train robbery is it?

[Prawnofthedead]

it become a valuable commodity when it sells out - exactly like the painting, exactly like the trendy vintage car,exactly like the extra money festivals charge us for the pleasure of drinking their overpriced beer (&not let us take beer in) it becomes a valuable commodity and most people exploit commodities to some degree.

[willjill]

So you just happened to decide to sell your tickets and go to Ibiza instead 4 weeks before and conveniently only after the tickets sell out! Yeah, right!

[blurbinator]

Is it just me, or are there a lot more Portuguese acts this year? I'm all up for supporting homegrown talent and trying something new, but just seems like a big change of direction, though I'm assuming they received some kind of feedback that said they wanted this?. I'm really quite disappointed with the Saturday acts at the moment though.

[davywalsh7]

All forms of Touts should be banned. Fair is fair!!!

[Placid Casual 1927]

Portuguese bands at a Portuguese festival?! What ever next!

Does seem more than last year though.

[Anderson19]

Probabaly didn't book enough foreign bands early enough.

[willjill]

Well if I can watch a random life sized puppet act at Glastonbury instead of walking the extra mile to the John Peel stage I'm sure I can survive some Portuguese bands in Portugal

Bags packed and I'm ready to go, 3 weeks from now I'll be posting from Portugal and unable to contain my excitement haha!

Edited June 18, 2014 by willjill

[Placid Casual 1927]

3 weeks today I'll be on the plane! Well in an hour or so! Anyone else flying from Bristol?

[Dom Wall]

Week on Sunday I fly out to Portugal!

[markmarkmark]

Personally I find people like Prawnofthedead are just as bad as: Paedophiles / Egotistical Bouncers / Thieves / Murderers

[HarryP95]

fly out on the 9th from manchester with TAP gna be craaaaazy

[shaun64]

anyone know what time gates open/1st band on thursday?

still waiting for tickets to arrive..anyone else in the same 'boat'?

[Prawnofthedead]

My spare tickets have now been sold to a viagogo, with a nice £67 profit - the person is now very happy & going to optimus alive and i have £67 extra to take to ibiza with me - hopefully i wont see any of you small minded morons there (you know who you are)

Edited June 18, 2014 by Prawnofthedead

[eFestivals]

Quite frankly, i dont expect to be called a 'scumbag by e festivals - thank you very much.

If you act like a scumbag tout then it's perfectly fair that you are called what you are.

If you don't wish to be thought of as a scumbag, then stop being a scumbag. It's all within your own control.

[eFestivals]

there is no clear right and wrong here, just peoples opinions,

Incorrect.

This website operates a no touting rule, on the basis that most people are not greedy scumbags who wish to profit whilst adding no value. Speculators, spivs, greedy c**ts, scumbag touts - all the same, expecting money for doing nothing.

Scumbag touts get called what they are.

Edited June 18, 2014 by eFestivals

[Prawnofthedead]

Be clearer with your site rules then - i didn't see them (are they even on display), that doesn't give you licence to call me a 'scumbag'

I keep asking you to ban me from here - why haven't you? is it because you enjoy feeling big by calling me a 'scumbag' ?

[Prawnofthedead]

anyway, i have better things to do with my time than converse with someone who clearly doesn't want to listen to other peoples opinions - i certainly wont be posting on here ever again.

[ljb1995]

Be clearer with your site rules then - i didn't see them (are they even on display), that doesn't give you licence to call me a 'scumbag'

I keep asking you to ban me from here - why

haven't you? is it because you enjoy feeling big by calling me a 'scumbag' ?

Why are you still here? You got your profit and nobody really cares..

[HarryP95]

anyone know what time gates open/1st band on thursday?

still waiting for tickets to arrive..anyone else in the same 'boat'?

Mine haven't come from ticket web, they said expect them early july or something

Edited June 18, 2014 by HarryP95

[Placid Casual 1927]

Mine came ages ago. Anyone want them, 300 for a pair?

[willjill]

I've had mine for weeks. They're packed already too