What women (don't) want.

[russycarps]

are you surprised that it happens at all?

 

 

I'm surprised that 6 year olds giving blowjobs is a regular occurrence. Are you not??

[russycarps]

who said it was regular?

You seem surprised that it happens at all. 

 

 

I know that child abuse happens. I am surprised it happens as frequently as implied here.

[feral chile]

It's one girl's experience. There's no mention of how frequent it might be.

Having said that, it's my experience (of talking to teachers, counsellors and reading about it) that it probably happens more than most people would imagine

I can't speak for nowadays, it was absolutely rife in the 70s.

[eFestivals]

I can't speak for nowadays, it was absolutely rife in the 70s.

 

what, 6 year olds giving blowjobs was rife in the 70s?

 

I must have led a sheltered childhood, I guess. .

[russycarps]

Looking at the news it seems like young boys are just as likely to be molested by predatory females.

[feral chile]

what, 6 year olds giving blowjobs was rife in the 70s?

 

I must have led a sheltered childhood, I guess. .

never talked about, was it. I didn't know what had happened to my male friends for years. And I still only know because I was close to one, who knew about the rest of the group.

And he was sympathetic to them, and excluding himself, for their deluded assumption that they were special, when really he'd been the special one.

You didn't get abused, you got chosen.

Edited September 29, 2015 by feral chile

[feral chile]

Looking at the news it seems like young boys are just as likely to be molested by predatory females.

maybe more so, because male adults tend to say stuff like 'wish I'd had this when I was young'.

so it's not thought of as abuse.

see above for differing gender attitudes.

Edited September 29, 2015 by feral chile

[feral chile]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/200910/is-woman-sexual-predator

I really don't know what to make of this. the article clearly states that female sex offenders aren't offenders because the boys were willing, and cultural gender expectations suggest they weren't emotionally damaged.

now then - conclusions? in a role reversal, would it be OK for 13 year old girls to be seduced if society didn't think of them as victims?

is this part of the patriarchal value system, and if so, is it being exploited to allow the abuse of male children?

Is it sexist to think of females as victims and males as...chosen?

Edited September 29, 2015 by feral chile

[eFestivals]

never talked about, was it. I didn't know what had happened to my male friends for years. And I still only know because I was close to one, who knew about the rest of the group.

And he was sympathetic to them, and excluding himself, for their deluded assumption that they were special, when really he'd been the special one.

You didn't get abused, you got chosen.

 

so what you're saying is, it was so rife no one knew it was happening....?

[russycarps]

I'm confused by the idea that boys, or men are 'molested' as often as women are. I've never heard of boys being touched up, or accidentally 'leant on' by women on their way to school (for example).  

 

 

your shorts probably put them off.

[eFestivals]

your shorts probably put them off.

 

[russycarps]

Very good

But seriously folks..... Were you aware of any boys being 'abused' on their way to school?

 

 

I wasn't aware of any girls or boys being abused on their way to school. I'd actually be surprised to learn pedos are active at 8.30am.

[russycarps]

You will be surprised then

 

 

so how many girls and boys do you know that got regularly sexually abused on the way in to school?

 

I just dont believe it's commonplace, sorry.

[russycarps]

My wife, sister... It's hardly a secret.

How regular does it need to be? Isn't once enough?

Why don't you believe it? Do you feel it's am affront to masculinity? You're not being accused.

As far as I'm aware

Who said it's commonplace?

 

 

I find it hard to believe because none of the close male and female acquaintances I've had over the years have ever been sexually assaulted on the way in to school, either on a regular or one-off occurrence. So, statistically, you can see why I am having difficulty with this. As from my quite large sample, there are zero experiences of sexual assault on the way in to school.

 

Affront to masculinity? I've no idea what you're talking about there. 

Edited September 30, 2015 by russycarps

[russycarps]

just seen your edit. So you agree it's not commonplace then. 

Edited September 30, 2015 by russycarps

[russycarps]

Why else would a male express disbelief at what some women claim?

I saw no reference as to how commonplace it may or may not be.

 

 

we're in agreement that it is incredibly rare for boys or girls to be sexually abused on the way to school.

[russycarps]

Unfortunately, I think Tony's right and it's a lot more common than people dare to think.

 

The percentage of women I have known who have had some sort of sexual abuse in the past is staggering. Obviously this is a small section of women but it does stagger me. And who knows how many of the rest tthat either I don't know well enough or just don't want to confide in me that it's happened to.

 

Edit: Just seen you've changed it to rare on the way to school as opposed to your original post re: the 6 year old that feral linked to. On that front, I have no knowledge. Sorry, I didn't realise the goalposts had changed

 

 

try and keep up pal...

[russycarps]

there was an item about one girl giving one blow job which you interpreted as being regular and commonplace

 

it's hard to keep up with logic like that

 

 

It seems as usual you have misinterpreted things then failed to keep up with the flow of conversation.

[russycarps]

"I'm surprised that 6 year olds giving blowjobs is a regular occurrence. Are you not??"

 

your second post

 

 

and your post, which is currently being discussed

 

"I'm confused by the idea that boys, or men are 'molested' as often as women are. I've never heard of boys being touched up, or accidentally 'leant on' by women on their way to school "

[russycarps]

are you disowning your original posts?

 

 

no, I am moving on from them after receiving satisfactory responses from feral.

[feral chile]

so what you're saying is, it was so rife no one knew it was happening....?

I would have thought secrecy would have facilitated it. Particularly given the reluctance of males to even consider themselves victims, never mind victims of gay assaults.

Would you be discussing it casually over the internet?

And notice, even though I'm aware of it, I've fallen into the stereotype of seeing males as predatory, and treating boys seduced by female adults as willing.

Imagine a 30 year old seducing a 13 year old, and switch the genders around, see if any seem worse.

Edited September 30, 2015 by feral chile

[feral chile]

so what you're saying is, it was so rife no one knew it was happening....?

oh, and hindsight's a wonderful thing. The fact that the person abusing these boys was also the one running out local YMCA dicso explains why it was full of men in their 20s. Giving 12 year olds drugs and alcohol in the foyer and trying to get them into their cars, and why the fact that they were on the dancefloor hitting on all the kids wasn't challenged.

us kids didn't really realise, and besides, even if we had, I doubt we'd have risked getting banned from one of the few social outlets we had.

this is just anecdotal, it seems that boys got targeted by predatory paedophiles, while girls were just hit on as a matter of course. So one adult and lots of boys, as opposed to lots of male adults hitting on young girls.

Edited September 30, 2015 by feral chile

[eFestivals]

hang on hang on  ... none of that is about 6 year olds giving blowjobs.

[feral chile]

hang on hang on  ... none of that is about 6 year olds giving blowjobs.

I didn't realise that was the only bit you were querying.

No, I can't say I would have known what a blowjob was at 6.

[feral chile]

I find it hard to believe because none of the close male and female acquaintances I've had over the years have ever been sexually assaulted on the way in to school, either on a regular or one-off occurrence. So, statistically, you can see why I am having difficulty with this. As from my quite large sample, there are zero experiences of sexual assault on the way in to school.

 

Affront to masculinity? I've no idea what you're talking about there.

There were a couple of scandals when I was a kid, but I only experienced casual harassment and some near misses. In our area, the abuse was going on IN school.

And possibly in the YM.

Edited September 30, 2015 by feral chile