Football 2015/16

[eastynh]

26 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

You'd love that wouldn't you. We'd just need to sign Sterling to play on the other side to make it perfect...

 Raheem will come good.

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

3 hours ago, eastynh said:

 Raheem will come good.

 

Stirling's issue for me - his best work is running a someone, or being played in behind. For sone reason city have had him getting the ball into feet. Often with his back to goal. 

At Liverpool, playing the ball in between CB and Full Back - stirling onto it was a great ball. City don't use that enough. I also wonder whether pep will too.. 

It isn't a pep strategy and I think he could be left behind in the system.

 

[eastynh]

1 hour ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

Stirling's issue for me - his best work is running a someone, or being played in behind. For sone reason city have had him getting the ball into feet. Often with his back to goal. 

At Liverpool, playing the ball in between CB and Full Back - stirling onto it was a great ball. City don't use that enough. I also wonder whether pep will too.. 

It isn't a pep strategy and I think he could be left behind in the system.

 

Surely Pep had some say in them getting Raheem. I really can't see them spunking 50 million on him if the incoming manager did not think he could use him. It looks like his confidence has gone at present and the injury has done him no good. He has been good and bad in equal measure this season. Hopefully this season has been a little blip in his progress.

[st dan]

I really rate Raheem, but think this upcoming season is key for him and him fulfilling his huge potential.

If it clicks, then Sterling - Aguero - KdB has the potential to be the 2nd best front three in the world, only behind the formidable MSN.

Surely with Manuel now gone, Navas' game time will be reduced and Sterling will get more minutes. In my opinion, Navas is one of the worst players in the league, all things considered. He hasn't scored in the Prem in 2 seasons is it? Woeful. 

[Chris Lfc]

Sterling is good on the wing but can't score a goal to save his life, i'm hoping to see Rooney behind Vardy and Kane in the euros. A great year would be Liverpool winning the Europa League and England winning the Euro's not so likely for England because they bottle it every competition but with the likes of dele ali also in the mix i can see some good things.

Edited May 16, 2016 by Chris Lfc

[eastynh]

1 hour ago, st dan said:

I really rate Raheem, but think this upcoming season is key for him and him fulfilling his huge potential.

If it clicks, then Sterling - Aguero - KdB has the potential to be the 2nd best front three in the world, only behind the formidable MSN.

Surely with Manuel now gone, Navas' game time will be reduced and Sterling will get more minutes. In my opinion, Navas is one of the worst players in the league, all things considered. He hasn't scored in the Prem in 2 seasons is it? Woeful. 

Yes the funny thing is Navas has clearly been one of City's best players over the last 2 seasons. 

Works hard, never gives the ball away. His finishing is woeful but he gets more stick for not picking a man out in the box. Problem with that is City only have Aguero in the box and he is usually surrounded by 4 defenders.

City have been far worse with Navas not in the team. 

[WS_Jack_III]

Sounds like Rafa is staying and being given control of the club. It's weird that we have just been relegated and yet it's the most positive fans have been in years.

 

Carr to retire too. Too many bad signings recently, needed changing.

[LondonTom]

10 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Its funny I would struggle to say who Englands best player is now. In the past there has been concerns about big England players being injured, yet I think England could lose pretty much any player and have someone else of similar level as back up.  Im not sure if thats a good or bad thing.

Yeah you are likely right there, injuries to any of the wide players would have be a greater blow than anyone in particular.

 

A game and half  in the Arsenal team is apparently all you need to be "England Quality" this year. 

[eastynh]

Does this become the cricket thread on Thursday??

[kaosmark2]

22 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Does this become the cricket thread on Thursday??

There is actually a cricket thread.

I'm going though

[eFestivals]

12 hours ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

Stirling's issue for me - his best work is running a someone, or being played in behind. For sone reason city have had him getting the ball into feet. Often with his back to goal. 

Yep, they've made poor use of him.

Even so, his tally of 6 goals this year is pretty decent from 28 games, and where his playing has been injury-interrupted (which it's not been much in previous seasons).

I suspect by this time next year he might be wishing he'd stayed put.

[TheGayTent]

Pretty decent? Yeah Barcelona, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich are conducting a bidding war for his services right now 

[pink_triangle]

25 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Yep, they've made poor use of him.

Even so, his tally of 6 goals this year is pretty decent from 28 games, and where his playing has been injury-interrupted (which it's not been much in previous seasons).

I suspect by this time next year he might be wishing he'd stayed put.

Although I don't think he scored against a single top half team. My view is someone his age needs a second season before making significant judgement. However my gut instinct is he has regressed.

As for regretting the move, I'm sure the wage softens the blow.

[sdvruxk]

He scored a hat trick at home to Bournemouth so there's 3 of his 6 goals.

[eFestivals]

17 minutes ago, sdvruxk said:

He scored a hat trick at home to Bournemouth so there's 3 of his 6 goals.

he also played up front in that game as far as I remember, whereas he was told to stand to the side and stay there for most of Citry's games this season.

So rather than that being "Sterling's crap, he can only score against Bournemouth", it actually says something else entirely.

 

[sdvruxk]

Fair point. 

His progression has been hindered though, whichever way you look at it.

[TheGayTent]

17 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

he also played up front in that game as far as I remember, whereas he was told to stand to the side and stay there for most of Citry's games this season.

So rather than that being "Sterling's crap, he can only score against Bournemouth", it actually says something else entirely.

 

You might have a point if you were right. However your memory is wrong. He played to the left of Bony that day who replaced Aguero. 

£50m gets you 6 goals in 31 premier league appearances - incidentally, all those league goals came at home. 

Perhaps Walcott is an upgrade...

Edited May 17, 2016 by TheGayTent

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

You might have a point if you were right. However your memory is wrong. He played to the left of Bony that day who replaced Aguero. 

so better than the actual striker, then.

I doubt he'll ever be an out and out goal-scorer, but he's more than able to score if he's played in a way that gives him opportunities. The way city have used him hasn't really given him those opportunities.

 

7 minutes ago, sdvruxk said:

Fair point. 

His progression has been hindered though, whichever way you look at it.

yep, no doubt about it. City gave him a small square of pitch and told him to stay there.

[sdvruxk]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

yep, no doubt about it. City gave him a small square of pitch and told him to stay there.

he's played 30 odd games there and not progressed in that position. granted its not the most effective way to use him but he still could've got better at what he's been asked to do.

[eFestivals]

6 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

£50m gets you 6 goals in 31 premier league appearances - incidentally, all those league goals came at home. 

Ángel Di María - £59.7 million gets you three goals in 27 appearances.

Etc, etc, etc.

 

 

 

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, sdvruxk said:

he's played 30 odd games there and not progressed in that position. granted its not the most effective way to use him but he still could've got better at what he's been asked to do.

Agreed, it's not like he is being asked to play there from centre back. To me adaptability is an important attribute of a modern day football.

[TheGayTent]

2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Ángel Di María - £59.7 million gets you three goals in 27 appearances.

Etc, etc, etc.

 

 

 

You enjoy making posts that highlight your opinion being bollocks?

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, sdvruxk said:

he's played 30 odd games there and not progressed in that position. granted its not the most effective way to use him but he still could've got better at what he's been asked to do.

I guess, tho most players have their own particular way of playing and don't perform as well if they're told to do something different.

I get the impression that as the new boy in a team of (supposed) superstars he decided to do what he was told, a bit too much perhaps.

[TheGayTent]

1 minute ago, pink_triangle said:

Agreed, it's not like he is being asked to play there from centre back. To me adaptability is an important attribute of a modern day football.

Say what? He's a one trick pony with not much to his game other than being able to run fast? Who would have thought it

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, TheGayTent said:

You enjoy making posts that highlight your opinion being bollocks?

Only you could throw out a stat and then claim all other stats which prove your own talking bollocks are the bollocks.

I'm in no way trying to suggest Sterling has had a great season, but within context it's not been dreadful either.