Football 16-17

[Hugh Jass]

4 hours ago, TheGayTent said:

 

Looks right to me.

[Comfy Bean]

13 hours ago, big__phil said:

Prem fixtures this weekend you say? Go on then...

Saturday 04 March

Man Utd v Bournemouth

Leicester v Hull

Stoke v Middlesbrough

Swansea v Burnley

Watford v Southampton

West Brom v Crystal Palace

Liverpool v Arsenal

Sunday 05 March

Spurs v Everton

Sunderland v Man City

Monday 06 March

West Ham v Chelsea

Big games all over the place this weekend. At the bottom Leicester v Hull obviously looks a big game, and Hull would actually go level on points with Leicester if they win. Boro, Swansea, and Palace might be looking at picking up points, whilst Sunderland face a City team who look pretty good again.

If Utd beat Bournmouth (who have now lost 4 in a row and not won in 7 and look in trouble), they'll go ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal who are both pretty inconsistent ahead of the late game on Saturday.

Looks to be a good weekend. Predictions?

I see lots of draws including...

At Leicester, West Brom, Liverpool and West Ham.

[mjsell]

I wonder how much that draw cost united? I'm not sure what the going rate for buying a ref is these days.

Who would have thought it would be Tyrone Mings to be the first player to really effect Zlatan this season. Both should have gone mind.

[JSmurphy]

Such an entertaining game. 

[kaosmark2]

Man U have occupied 6th for the longest time any team has occupied any spot in the football league exc. top or bottom of their respective leagues.

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, kaosmark2 said:

Man U have occupied 6th for the longest time any team has occupied any spot in the football league exc. top or bottom of their respective leagues.

yup. Big screw up by UTD, failed to take advantage of liverpool or arsenal dropping points 

[lost]

I'm stunned Schneiderlin couldn't get a game and was shipped out. Pogba looks terrible in that position, He was a different player at Juve in the free role with Khedira and Vidal doing the workhorse stuff.

[zahidf]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

yup. Big screw up by UTD, failed to take advantage of liverpool or arsenal dropping points 

Another Stat: Utd have drawn as many games at home as they have won.

[kaosmark2]

Big wins for Leicester, Swansea and Palace.

Looks like 3 from 7 to go down, but I feel Boro are certs. They just don't have the goals in the team even though they have a solid defense.

I was hoping it'd be Leicester, Fat Sam and the Mackems to go down, but annoyingly sacking Ranieri seems to have worked for Leicester.

[Hugh Jass]

Knew we'd lose today. Just didn't turn up.

[pink_triangle]

16 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Knew we'd lose today. Just didn't turn up.

Football history tells me that when a team with low expectations hits 40 points early, they are the teams you want to play if you are in desperate need of points.

[kaosmark2]

I feel that's promotion secured today. Obviously it's not over until it's mathematical, but points gained over Brighton and Huddersfield today. 11 points clear with 12 games for Huddersfield to play with a good gap to second. 

[Hugh Jass]

2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Football history tells me that when a team with low expectations hits 40 points early, they are the teams you want to play if you are in desperate need of points.

Oh yeah, we definitely looked like a group of players flicking through holiday brochures today. We've had a great two thirds of a season so far, it would be desperately disappointing if it just fizzled out now.

[eFestivals]

16 hours ago, zahidf said:

yup. Big screw up by UTD, failed to take advantage of liverpool or arsenal dropping points 

yep, the form of other teams also goes up and down and makes them drop points too. Who knew?

Yesterday was the day when Liverpool were meant to have been proven as shit, and now they find themselves in 3rd just one point from 2nd.

If that's 'shit' and out of the running for top 4, then Utd are in the relegation zone.

[pink_triangle]

24 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

yep, the form of other teams also goes up and down and makes them drop points too. Who knew?

Yesterday was the day when Liverpool were meant to have been proven as shit, and now they find themselves in 3rd just one point from 2nd.

If that's 'shit' and out of the running for top 4, then Utd are in the relegation zone.

Did anyone say other teams don't drop points, or Liverpool were a shit team? I thought most acknowledged Liverpool were very strong against the top clubs. With the league title over, it's good that everything is to play for between2 and . Only City would really shock me missing out on top 4.

[eFestivals]

Just now, pink_triangle said:

Did anyone say other teams don't drop points, or Liverpool were a shit team?

Nal said Liverpool were 'shit', yep. My comments last week were addressing that and just that.

And I was making the point that they'll be fine, because they're capable of playing well so will pick up out of their slump, while Utd have been on a better run and their form will drop off some.

I might end up being wrong about that, but it's a long long way from anything nutty.

[Wooderson]

Nal is a troll.

[pink_triangle]

31 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Nal said Liverpool were 'shit', yep. My comments last week were addressing that and just that.

And I was making the point that they'll be fine, because they're capable of playing well so will pick up out of their slump, while Utd have been on a better run and their form will drop off some.

I might end up being wrong about that, but it's a long long way from anything nutty.

I'm personally not interested in the Liverpool v man Utd rivalry. Fact is both teams are amongst the best in the world even if not at their peak. I'm not sure anymore suggested Liverpool couldn't get in the top 4, last week man Utd, arsenal and Liverpool were about equal in the top 4 betting which was probably about right.

[Wooderson]

7 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I'm personally not interested in the Liverpool v man Utd rivalry. Fact is both teams are amongst the best in the world even if not at their peak. I'm not sure anymore suggested Liverpool couldn't get in the top 4, last week man Utd, arsenal and Liverpool were about equal in the top 4 betting which was probably about right.

LFC last 7 league place finishes: 

7, 6, 8, 7, 2, 6, 8

They are demonstrably *not* among the best in the world.

[zahidf]

Allegri (Juventus manager) linked to Arsenal job

http://www.football365.com/news/allegri-agrees-arsenal-deal-and-targets-midfielder

 

That really was an incredibly stupid choice not to start sanchez yesterday.

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, Wooderson said:

LFC last 7 league place finishes: 

7, 6, 8, 7, 2, 6, 8

They are demonstrably *not* among the best in the world.

It depends where you set the bar, I would place both in the top 20 teams in the world.

[Wooderson]

5 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It depends where you set the bar, I would place both in the top 20 teams in the world.

IMO only two teams matter in England. The current gulf between them is, sadly, enormous.

[Comfy Bean]

17 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It depends where you set the bar, I would place both in the top 20 teams in the world.

That would be my view.

Possibly we are looking back instead of forward though.

Who do we think are the most likely English club to next win the champs league ?

It could be argued that Man City or Chelsea are best prepared going forward. 

[pink_triangle]

6 minutes ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:

That would be my view.

Possibly we are looking back instead of forward though.

Who do we think are the most likely English club to next win the champs league ?

It could be argued that Man City or Chelsea are best prepared going forward. 

Man City and Chelsea without a doubt , followed by Man Utd who should get back to that level eventually if they keep spending at current levels. However it's a cup and while there's been a few years of strong winners, it hasn't always been the case.

[pink_triangle]

I can't agree with keown calling Shakespeare "out of order" for wanting the Leicester job. I haven't heard him say similar things about some of his contemporaries parachuted into big jobs with no managerial/ coaching experience.