Football 16-17

[Wooderson]

1 hour ago, pink_triangle said:

I don't think spurs and Liverpool have enough buffer to say that. It looks like a 5 way battle for 2nd to 4th to me.

True. Utd are in the mix for the CL places. Always have been tbh. I think the "titlerace" is well over however.

[The Nal]

2 minutes ago, Wooderson said:

True. Utd are in the mix for the CL places. Always have been tbh. I think the "titlerace" is well over however.

Not quite yet. Chelseas next 3 - Hull, Liverpool and Arsenal.

They'll destroy Hull obviously but theres 2 big big games to follow.

[Wooderson]

4 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Not quite yet. Chelseas next 3 - Hull, Liverpool and Arsenal.

They'll destroy Hull obviously but theres 2 big big games to follow.

LFC's form has been grim for over a month chief. Seriously under-strength side for a "supposed" top club.

[The Nal]

Just now, Wooderson said:

LFC's form has been grim for over a month chief. Seriously under-strength side for a "supposed" top club.

Is that the owners? Squad is very thin. Throw in a Champions League run next season too and there has to be signings in the summer surely? A few. 

[Wooderson]

5 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Is that the owners? Squad is very thin. Throw in a Champions League run next season too and there has to be signings in the summer surely? A few. 

Klopp has a track record of signing very young players / prioritizing development, but missing Coutinho/Mane/Henderson/Matip/Sturridge requires action.

I don't know if the owners are all that anxious to win anything tbh. We sell our best players.

[Hugh Jass]

City just look stale now. Too many players who aren't quite at the elite level anymore - Sagna, Zabaleta, Clichy, Toure, Navas (never was) and arguably Silva.

They're overdue a major clearout.

[mjsell]

Well done Sutton. Might finally get on TV now. 

Edit: And Lincoln City. Absolutely dominated a championship side. 

Edited January 17, 2017 by mjsell

[big__phil]

Apparently Yaya has turned down a shed-load of money to go to China. I know he's already on a shed-load of money, but I'd have him (or certainly his agent) down as someone who'd be straight off given the chance.

[thetime]

14 hours ago, mjsell said:

Well done Sutton. Might finally get on TV now. 

Edit: And Lincoln City. Absolutely dominated a championship side. 

Yes Sutton are on the box, TV games were pretty much decided last week.

With palace winning it means Utd are on again...

[Wooderson]

6 minutes ago, thetime said:

With palace winning it means Utd are on again...

Oh no way! what a surprise.

[mjsell]

23 minutes ago, thetime said:

With palace winning it means Utd are on again...

How does that work? I see it was a choice between Palace/Bolton vs City and United vs Wigan. Does that mean they wanted Bolton/City more than United/Wigan?

Seems like they were always going to pick United either way to me.

 

Again would much rather see Lincoln vs Brighton.

Edited January 18, 2017 by mjsell

[thetime]

5 minutes ago, mjsell said:

How does that work? I see it was a choice between Palace/Bolton vs City and United vs Wigan. Does that mean they wanted Bolton/City more than United/Wigan?

Seems like they were always going to pick United either way to me.

 

 

Correct if Bolton won they would have been chosen v city. 

 

[thetime]

1 minute ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Palace City would have had more chance of an upset and probably a better match.

Thought it was a bizarre decision releasing which matches would be on in an "either/or" format. Basically told Palace they didn't want them on the box!

I'm just glad united are on the Sunday as I can go to the game.

I agree it's pretty strange, I suppose Utd having to play the Sunday due to the efl semi final being the Thursday helped in that scenario.

[mjsell]

Im sure Lincoln wuld have been more than happy to play on the Sunday....

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, mjsell said:

Seems like they were always going to pick United either way to me.

isn't it more than a decade since a Utd cup tie hasn't been on the box?

(I have a feeling that's right, tho I could be wrong).

[The Nal]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

isn't it more than a decade since a Utd cup tie hasn't been on the box?

(I have a feeling that's right, tho I could be wrong).

You're right. Every game since 2005. This will be their 56th televised FA Cup game in a row. 

[The Nal]

3 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

That is mental.

It really is yeah. I'd no idea. Can't argue with ratings I suppose. 

Jan 19, 2005 - Won 2-0 vs Exeter
Jan 29, 2005 - Won 3-0 vs Middlesbrough
Feb 19, 2005 - Won 2-0 at Everton
March 12, 2005 - 4-0 at Southampton
April 17, 2005 - Won 4-1 at Newcastle
May 21, 2005 - Lost 0-0 (5-4 pens) vs Arsenal
Jan 8, 2006 - Drew 0-0 at Burton
Jan 18, 2006 - Won 5-0 vs Burton
Jan 29, 2006 - Won 3-0 at Wolves
Feb 18, 2006 - Lost 1-0 at Liverpool
Jan 7, 2007 - Won 2-1 vs Aston Villa
Jan 27, 2007 - Won 2-1 vs Portsmouth
Feb 17, 2007 - Drew 1-1 vs Reading
Feb 27, 2007 - Won 3-2 at Reading
Mar 10, 2007 - Drew 2-2 at Middlesbrough
Mar 19, 2007 - Won 1-0 vs Middlesborough
Apr 14, 2007 - Won 4-1 at Watford
May 19, 2007 - Lost 1-0 vs Chelsea
Jan 5, 2008 - Won 2-0 at Aston Villa
Jan 27, 2008 - Won 3-1 vs Tottenham
Feb 16, 2008 - Won 4-0 vs Arsenal
Mar 8, 2008 - Lost 1-0 vs Portsmouth
Jan 4, 2009 - Won 3-0 at Southampton
Jan 24, 2009 - 2-1 vs Tottenham
Feb 15, 2009 - Won 4-1 at Derby
Mar 7, 2009 - 4-0 at Fulham
Apr 19, 2009 - Lost 0-0 (4-2 pens) vs Everton
Jan 4, 2010 - Lost 1-0 vs Leeds
Jan 9, 2011 - Won 1-0 vs Liverpool
Jan 29, 2011 - Won 2-1 at Southampton
Feb 19, 2011 - Won 1-0 vs Crawley Town
Mar 12, 2011 - Won 2-0 vs Arsenal
Apr 16, 2011 - Lost 1-0 vs Manchester City
Jan 8, 2012 - Won 3-2 at Manchester City
Jan 28, 2012 - Lost 2-1 at Liverpool
Jan 5, 2013 - Drew 2-2 at West Ham
Jan 16, 2013 - Won 1-0 vs West Ham
Jan 26, 2013 - Won 4-1 vs Fulham
Feb 18, 2013 - Won 2-1 vs Reading
Mar 10, 2013 - Drew 2-2 vs Chelsea
Apr 1, 2013 - Lost 1-0 at Chelsea
Jan 5, 2014 - Lost 2-1 vs Swansea
Jan 4, 2015 - Won 2-1 at Yeovil Town
Jan 23, 2015 - Drew 0-0 at Cambridge
Feb 3, 2015 - Won 3-0 vs Cambridge
Feb 16, 2015 - Won 3-1 at Preston
Mar 9, 2015 - Lost 2-1 vs Arsenal
Jan 9, 2016 - Won 1-0 vs Sheff Utd
Jan 29, 2016 - Won 3-1 vs Derby
Feb 22, 2016 - Won 3-0 vs Shrewsbury
Mar 13, 2016 - Drew 1-1 vs West Ham
Apr 13, 2016 - Won 2-1 vs West Ham
Apr 23, 2016 - Won 2-1 vs Everton
May 21, 2016 - Won 2-1 vs Crystal Palace
Jan 7, 2016 - Won 4 nil vs Reading

Edited January 18, 2017 by The Nal

[eFestivals]

17 minutes ago, The Nal said:

It really is yeah. I'd no idea. Can't argue with ratings I suppose. 

Jan 19, 2005 - Won 2-0 vs Exeter
Jan 29, 2005 - Won 3-0 vs Middlesbrough
Feb 19, 2005 - Won 2-0 at Everton
March 12, 2005 - 4-0 at Southampton
April 17, 2005 - Won 4-1 at Newcastle
May 21, 2005 - Lost 0-0 (5-4 pens) vs Arsenal
Jan 8, 2006 - Drew 0-0 at Burton
Jan 18, 2006 - Won 5-0 vs Burton
Jan 29, 2006 - Won 3-0 at Wolves
Feb 18, 2006 - Lost 1-0 at Liverpool
Jan 7, 2007 - Won 2-1 vs Aston Villa
Jan 27, 2007 - Won 2-1 vs Portsmouth
Feb 17, 2007 - Drew 1-1 vs Reading
Feb 27, 2007 - Won 3-2 at Reading
Mar 10, 2007 - Drew 2-2 at Middlesbrough
Mar 19, 2007 - Won 1-0 vs Middlesborough
Apr 14, 2007 - Won 4-1 at Watford
May 19, 2007 - Lost 1-0 vs Chelsea
Jan 5, 2008 - Won 2-0 at Aston Villa
Jan 27, 2008 - Won 3-1 vs Tottenham
Feb 16, 2008 - Won 4-0 vs Arsenal
Mar 8, 2008 - Lost 1-0 vs Portsmouth
Jan 4, 2009 - Won 3-0 at Southampton
Jan 24, 2009 - 2-1 vs Tottenham
Feb 15, 2009 - Won 4-1 at Derby
Mar 7, 2009 - 4-0 at Fulham
Apr 19, 2009 - Lost 0-0 (4-2 pens) vs Everton
Jan 4, 2010 - Lost 1-0 vs Leeds
Jan 9, 2011 - Won 1-0 vs Liverpool
Jan 29, 2011 - Won 2-1 at Southampton
Feb 19, 2011 - Won 1-0 vs Crawley Town
Mar 12, 2011 - Won 2-0 vs Arsenal
Apr 16, 2011 - Lost 1-0 vs Manchester City
Jan 8, 2012 - Won 3-2 at Manchester City
Jan 28, 2012 - Lost 2-1 at Liverpool
Jan 5, 2013 - Drew 2-2 at West Ham
Jan 16, 2013 - Won 1-0 vs West Ham
Jan 26, 2013 - Won 4-1 vs Fulham
Feb 18, 2013 - Won 2-1 vs Reading
Mar 10, 2013 - Drew 2-2 vs Chelsea
Apr 1, 2013 - Lost 1-0 at Chelsea
Jan 5, 2014 - Lost 2-1 vs Swansea
Jan 4, 2015 - Won 2-1 at Yeovil Town
Jan 23, 2015 - Drew 0-0 at Cambridge
Feb 3, 2015 - Won 3-0 vs Cambridge
Feb 16, 2015 - Won 3-1 at Preston
Mar 9, 2015 - Lost 2-1 vs Arsenal
Jan 9, 2016 - Won 1-0 vs Sheff Utd
Jan 29, 2016 - Won 3-1 vs Derby
Feb 22, 2016 - Won 3-0 vs Shrewsbury
Mar 13, 2016 - Drew 1-1 vs West Ham
Apr 13, 2016 - Won 2-1 vs West Ham
Apr 23, 2016 - Won 2-1 vs Everton
May 21, 2016 - Won 2-1 vs Crystal Palace
Jan 7, 2016 - Won 4 nil vs Reading

Just out of interest, how many of those were on the beeb and how many on other broadcasters?

I suspect that a significant number were on Sky, to keep their subscribers happy.

 

[The Nal]

14 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Just out of interest, how many of those were on the beeb and how many on other broadcasters?

I suspect that a significant number were on Sky, to keep their subscribers happy.

 

No idea. But the Telegraph have the best article on it I've read. 

I certainly don't remember a disproportionate amount of Man Utd on the Beeb in the FA Cup. Could be wrong though.  

[Wooderson]

Success breeds success. Domestic dominance will of course prompt this level of coverage. 

[Hugh Jass]

2 hours ago, The Nal said:

No idea. But the Telegraph have the best article on it I've read. 

I certainly don't remember a disproportionate amount of Man Utd on the Beeb in the FA Cup. Could be wrong though.  

Sky havent had the cup for years now. Since the Beeb have had the cup back they've shown United every time I believe. 

[eFestivals]

10 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Sky havent had the cup for years now. Since the Beeb have had the cup back they've shown United every time I believe. 

then BT have it now?

There's defo someone else with live broadcast rights. Not giving c**ty-chops Murdoch or anyone else my money for footie, i'm not up on the details.

The point is the big footie subscriptions are taken out by people to mainly watch the big clubs, of which utd have the biggest fan-base ... so it's always Utd that gets featured for the FA Cup (with the subscription services wanting them far more than the beeb does, because of that commercial angle).

Edited January 18, 2017 by eFestivals

[kaosmark2]

ITV had it for 3 years. There's almost always been partial terrestrial rights on the cup. The 2 years it wasn't, it had incredibly low viewing figures.

[pink_triangle]

Not only do BBC have a love for man utd they showed all Salfords games last season!

[TheGayTent]

Maybe I'm old but Fonte's rumoured transfer fee seems high. 

Not sure why we discuss Man Utd/FA Cup every single season....audience figures rule, simple as that.