Radiohead Headlining 2017

[Little Andy]

8 hours ago, eFestivals said:

while Sheerhan is obvious from some angles, it's perhaps a bit premature from his own point of view.- and he seems to be someone working to his own timetable.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/glastonbury-2016-headliner-ed-sheeran-says-he-wont-be-topping-the-bill-until-he-has-at-least-three-a6700796.html

 

Isn't Ed's third album due rather soon? If so, 2017 is possible on his own timetable.

[Aiden]

Whether it's my head or my heart saying this I agree that Radiohead are nailed on.
Also everything about the Ed Sheeran slot seems to make sense so I'm confident in saying I think that'll also happen.

So that just leaves one spot and I would be a little surprised if it wasn't a female act. ***

A lot of emphasis has been made recently on female representation at festivals, especially headline slots and Emily I believe has commented a few times on wanting to increase current numbers. After the success of the Adele booking (didn't go to see her as it wasn't really for me, but from what I've heard her set was all round well received by both those at the festival and those at home) I find it difficult to see them not trying to progress further with this. Hopefully if this is the case we end up with a Kate Bush and not a Taylor Swift (or artistic equivalents of both).

***Disclaimer - I realise that this is a sensitive issue and probably deserves a thread of its own. Whether you think the issue of female representation is right or wrong I am merely stating that I believe they will look to get a female headliner, not trying to start a heated debate. 

[wilem]

22 minutes ago, Aiden said:

Whether it's my head or my heart saying this I agree that Radiohead are nailed on.
Also everything about the Ed Sheeran slot seems to make sense so I'm confident in saying I think that'll also happen.

So that just leaves one spot and I would be a little surprised if it wasn't a female act. ***

A lot of emphasis has been made recently on female representation at festivals, especially headline slots and Emily I believe has commented a few times on wanting to increase current numbers. After the success of the Adele booking (didn't go to see her as it wasn't really for me, but from what I've heard her set was all round well received by both those at the festival and those at home) I find it difficult to see them not trying to progress further with this. Hopefully if this is the case we end up with a Kate Bush and not a Taylor Swift (or artistic equivalents of both).

***Disclaimer - I realise that this is a sensitive issue and probably deserves a thread of its own. Whether you think the issue of female representation is right or wrong I am merely stating that I believe they will look to get a female headliner, not trying to start a heated debate. 

People who don't think we should have female representation are the same people who don't want James Bond to be black - bigots.

[Aiden]

1 minute ago, wilem said:

People who don't think we should have female representation are the same people who don't want James Bond to be black - bigots.

Exactly, and they're never the most civil of folk. As unlikely as it is that there are any in the efestival Radiohead thread I thought best not to provoke any and keep the post on point as it's neither the time nor place to put up with their nonsense. 

[incident]

6 hours ago, wilem said:

People who don't think we should have female representation are the same people who don't want James Bond to be black - bigots.

 

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that there shouldn't be female representation throughout the bill at Festivals generally and/or Glastonbury specifically.. If anyone did say or believe that then yes, your statement is correct.

Where the debate usually takes place is over whether the Festival would or should try to ensure that representation beyond what the suitable and available acts allow for - unfortunately at this point it's true to say that there's comparatively small number of female artists who could viably headline. I can only come up with 8 obviously suitable solo acts off the top of my head - Flo, Adele, Beyonce, Rhianna, Taylor Swift, Alicia Keys, Madonna, Kate Bush and most of those seem very unlikely for 2017 for various reasons. While I'm sure that in a perfect world the Festival organisers would prefer to have representation at the top of the bill every year, if they can't get one of the above (or someone else suitable that I've forgotten about), at what point do they basically say "well, we tried" and book Coldplay again instead?

I've concentrated on solo acts to keep it simple, but I think the same applies to bands with significant female representation in them.

[jackarmy]

6 hours ago, incident said:

 

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that there shouldn't be female representation throughout the bill at Festivals generally and/or Glastonbury specifically.. If anyone did say or believe that then yes, your statement is correct.

Where the debate usually takes place is over whether the Festival would or should try to ensure that representation beyond what the suitable and available acts allow for - unfortunately at this point it's true to say that there's comparatively small number of female artists who could viably headline. I can only come up with 8 obviously suitable solo acts off the top of my head - Flo, Adele, Beyonce, Rhianna, Taylor Swift, Alicia Keys, Madonna, Kate Bush and most of those seem very unlikely for 2017 for various reasons. While I'm sure that in a perfect world the Festival organisers would prefer to have representation at the top of the bill every year, if they can't get one of the above (or someone else suitable that I've forgotten about), at what point do they basically say "well, we tried" and book Coldplay again instead?

I've concentrated on solo acts to keep it simple, but I think the same applies to bands with significant female representation in them.

Could probably add Lady Gaga to that list. But yeah, the point still stands...

[Quark]

6 hours ago, incident said:

 

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that there shouldn't be female representation throughout the bill at Festivals generally and/or Glastonbury specifically.. If anyone did say or believe that then yes, your statement is correct.

Where the debate usually takes place is over whether the Festival would or should try to ensure that representation beyond what the suitable and available acts allow for - unfortunately at this point it's true to say that there's comparatively small number of female artists who could viably headline. I can only come up with 8 obviously suitable solo acts off the top of my head - Flo, Adele, Beyonce, Rhianna, Taylor Swift, Alicia Keys, Madonna, Kate Bush and most of those seem very unlikely for 2017 for various reasons. While I'm sure that in a perfect world the Festival organisers would prefer to have representation at the top of the bill every year, if they can't get one of the above (or someone else suitable that I've forgotten about), at what point do they basically say "well, we tried" and book Coldplay again instead?

I've concentrated on solo acts to keep it simple, but I think the same applies to bands with significant female representation in them.

Bigot!!

That's the challenge in music, work, sport, the whole caboodle. When people are perceived, rightly or wrongly, as being in or at a certain position due to representation rather than suitability, however good the intention, things can get....knotty

[Woffy]

12 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Which is why we need the women - they're good at getting knots out. 

'Get yer knots out'? Scruff...really. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Florence too.

[Woffy]

To digress back to the thread topic, sort of, after a few months what's everyone's considered opinion of AMSP?

[CaledonianGonzo]

Out of the top drawer.

I’m not a serial ‘head botherer, but for me it’s one of their best.  Glad they’ve dropped the weak, glitchy-as$ beats.

That said, for me it’s emphatically not a summer album, so I’ve not been returning to it that frequently.  Come November, however, it’s gonna suit the vibe to a t.

 

[FloorFiller]

4 minutes ago, Woffy said:

To digress back to the thread topic, sort of, after a few months what's everyone's considered opinion of AMSP?

it's not their best by a long stretch and i can't see it ever breaking in to my top albums of theirs, but it's certainly much better than TKOL, and that's what mattered most - that they've still got it. still enjoying listening to it now and the intro of Burn the Witch still fills me with glee like the first time i heard it

[Woffy]

Burn The Witch is my Karma Police of AMSP:

Liked it initially, then thought it was a bit meh...now love it. 

And Tinker, Tailor...has come from nowhere to being a firm fave. 

Agree with CalGon. AMSP is going back in the box til the clocks change. 

Weirdly, Grimes has me obsessed atm. 

[Quark]

27 minutes ago, Woffy said:

To digress back to the thread topic, sort of, after a few months what's everyone's considered opinion of AMSP?

Not got to it yet.  I was about to listen to it but @dentalplanpointed out in no uncertain terms that I needed to listen to the albums in order as I'd not listened to anything past OK Computer.

However I have remembered that I am my own man!  So Giving it a listen this morning

[stocky3000]

1 hour ago, Woffy said:

To digress back to the thread topic, sort of, after a few months what's everyone's considered opinion of AMSP?

I like it, but the more I listen to the older stuff, the lower it falls on my list. 

As said above, I like the way that the tracks can change in my view over time e.g Present Tense has gone up massively in my view. 

Still think Daydreaming is one of the most beautiful songs this year

 

[Woffy]

2 hours ago, stocky3000 said:

Still think Daydreaming is one of the most beautiful songs this year

 

...apart from the stuff of childhood nightmares ending. Fuckin' Jesus...

[stocky3000]

1 hour ago, Woffy said:

...apart from the stuff of childhood nightmares ending. Fuckin' Jesus...

agreed! normally have to skip that to avoid anxiety pangs

[SwedgeAntilles]

I'm a big fan of AMSP, it's comfortably in the top 5, might even be my fourth place, only time will tell. 

For me it means Radiohead now have five great albums (AMSP, OKC, In Rainbows, Bends, Kid A), two decent albums (HTTT and Amnesiac) and two I'd rather forget about. 

[efcfanwirral]

Right then - on a personal level I hope they dont headline next year as im missing Glastonbury for a wedding. I'm not st all bothered I'm happy with having some time off but radiohead on the pyramid is one of the last music must sees for me 

but looking at setlists...now would be the time wouldn't it?

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

I'm a big fan of AMSP, it's comfortably in the top 5, might even be my fourth place, only time will tell. 

For me it means Radiohead now have five great albums (AMSP, OKC, In Rainbows, Bends, Kid A), two decent albums (HTTT and Amnesiac) and two I'd rather forget about. 

Do you really class TKOL alongside Pablo Honey as an album that should be banished from memory? It's below par for Radiohead but still a decent record.

[FloorFiller]

41 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Do you really class TKOL alongside Pablo Honey as an album that should be banished from memory? It's below par for Radiohead but still a decent record.

aye, it may not be up to their usual fantastic standards, but it (second half especially) still had it's awe inspiring moments. with the release of AMSP i doubt i'll be revisiting TKOL too much, but i won't write it off entirely like i can safely do with Pablo Honey

[SwedgeAntilles]

1 hour ago, dentalplan said:

Do you really class TKOL alongside Pablo Honey as an album that should be banished from memory? It's below par for Radiohead but still a decent record.

 

32 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

aye, it may not be up to their usual fantastic standards, but it (second half especially) still had it's awe inspiring moments. with the release of AMSP i doubt i'll be revisiting TKOL too much, but i won't write it off entirely like i can safely do with Pablo Honey

I don't particularly dislike either album, Pablo Honey was fine for its time and TKOL accomplishes what it sets out to do I suppose. There's a couple of tracks on both I like (particularly Codex) but I very rarely listen to either as an album, and I probably never will. That's what sets them apart from the rest of the back catalogue. 

[FloorFiller]

3 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

 

I don't particularly dislike either album, Pablo Honey was fine for its time and TKOL accomplishes what it sets out to do I suppose. There's a couple of tracks on both I like (particularly Codex) but I very rarely listen to either as an album, and I probably never will. That's what sets them apart from the rest of the back catalogue. 

yeah good point. i think i listened to TKOL more out of duty of it being their latest album/after i'd rinsed their other albums more than actually wanting to, so i doubt i'll be doing that much more. Codex > Give Up The Ghost > Separator (Lotus Flower added if you like) is still a fantastic run of songs, mind. just a shame what came before wasn't all that great

[Chawk]

Eh, I love TKOL; I can understand why other people might not like it as much, but for me it just clicks. That's not to say it's my #1 RH album either, though.

Edited August 13, 2016 by Chawk

[Hugh Jass]

On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:09 AM, eFestivals said:

every now and then I get emails from the Amazon Associates people, recommending stuff that efests should promote to its users based on what the users from here have been buying most.

Normally it's just tents and other stuff people will use for camping. The latest one also has a string of Radiohead albums.

That's your fault this-topic, that is.

 

 

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