Football 17/18

[The Nal]

2 hours ago, thetime said:

Although what it will mean is loads of lumping it up top..

Be interested to see if thats tolerated this season. I don't think so.

[thetime]

20 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Be interested to see if thats tolerated this season. I don't think so.

Depends where they are in the league, 1st no rumblings but 5th and all out abuse. 

[pink_triangle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40710224

A few old school classics, has to be Atkinson for me.

[Wooderson]

8 hours ago, thetime said:

Depends where they are in the league, 1st no rumblings but 5th and all out abuse. 

Spent buckets of cash. I can't see the standard of footie improving a jot.

Bus parked, hoof to Fellaini, Andy Tate whining into a camera "Give it Giggseh" after 50% of games.

[TheGayTent]

49 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40710224

A few old school classics, has to be Atkinson for me.

The winner will be Paolo, and rightly so. 

[zahidf]

http://www.football365.com/news/sturridge-offers-update-after-injuring-himself-scoring

 

sturridge injured again

[Hugh Jass]

11 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40710224

A few old school classics, has to be Atkinson for me.

I'm a sucker for a Le Tissier goal.

[The Nal]

Looks like Neymar to PSG is happening then. Sad. Very Brazilian. 

[jyoung]

12 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40710224

A few old school classics, has to be Atkinson for me.

Got to be Yeboah. (Shoutout to Los Campesinos! "We connected like a Yeboah volley.")

21 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Looks like Neymar to PSG is happening then. Sad. Very Brazilian. 

Came here to post about this. The French league, man. Obviously there's pros and cons for the lad but that just doesn't sit right with me. 

[jyoung]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

http://www.football365.com/news/sturridge-offers-update-after-injuring-himself-scoring

 

sturridge injured again

That was a decent game to watch to be honest. Pre season or not, Liverpool look sharp and are getting forward at lightning pace, intercepting opponents play and turning them over for fun. They seem match fit and ready. Whether they can sustain that across the season or not obviously remains to be seen and I'd be inclined to say no. Especially with European commitments. The addition of a quality CB and CM would do them the world of good.

[thetime]

11 minutes ago, jyoung said:

That was a decent game to watch to be honest. Pre season or not, Liverpool look sharp and are getting forward at lightning pace, intercepting opponents play and turning them over for fun. They seem match fit and ready. Whether they can sustain that across the season or not obviously remains to be seen and I'd be inclined to say no. Especially with European commitments. The addition of a quality CB and CM would do them the world of good.

It's Liverpool's year..

Edited August 2, 2017 by thetime

[jyoung]

6 minutes ago, thetime said:

It's Liverpool's year..

They'll certainly tell you that but Bill knows...

[Wooderson]

Another shite year ahead for them Reds so. Look ace, win nowt.

[jyoung]

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/news/2017-2018/comunicat-fc-barcelona-neymar-jr

That escalated quickly.

[Dan R]

What are the consequences of breaking FFP rules nowadays? I know Barca have said they will report PSG and there's no chance that €220 million could be afforded within FFP.

Also really don't see how this will work out for Neymar (other than the ludicrous paycheque), the only way he could win the Ballon D'or at PSG is by winning the Champions league and the World Cup this season, and PSG are still a way off that yet imo.

[The Nal]

13 minutes ago, Dan R said:

What are the consequences of breaking FFP rules nowadays? I know Barca have said they will report PSG and there's no chance that €220 million could be afforded within FFP.

Also really don't see how this will work out for Neymar (other than the ludicrous paycheque), the only way he could win the Ballon D'or at PSG is by winning the Champions league and the World Cup this season, and PSG are still a way off that yet imo.

It could be afforded. PSG have time to make it back and sell on other players. Id image his image rights are huge too and they'll get loads of that. Also considering PSG are owned by Qatar, this 5 year deal brings him right up to age 30 and into the 2022 World Cup in Qatar so it makes sense as an investment. They can use him as an ambassador.   

But yeah, leaving Suarez, Messi and Iniesta is an odd one. Sad one on the footballing front. 

[jyoung]

Apparently all FFP is, is not making losses of over 30 million during a 3 year period.

[Dan R]

7 minutes ago, The Nal said:

It could be afforded. PSG have time to make it back and sell on other players. Id image his image rights are huge too and they'll get loads of that. Also considering PSG are owned by Qatar, this 5 year deal brings him right up to age 30 and into the 2022 World Cup in Qatar so it makes sense as an investment. They can use him as an ambassador.   

But yeah, leaving Suarez, Messi and Iniesta is an odd one. Sad one on the footballing front. 

Will his image rights contribute towards FFP? Not too familiar with PSGs squad, but they've not really sold any players yet. Plus selling big players could make winning the CL more unlikely this season. And regarding the next world cup, surely Ronaldo and Messi's time will have passed and Neymar would be the main man at Barca.

I just don't buy that it's about him winning the Ballon D'or, and is definitely sad on the football front.

Just now, jyoung said:

Apparently all FFP is, is not making losses of over 30 million during a 3 year period.

Any idea what the penalties on breaking it are?

[jyoung]

8 minutes ago, Dan R said:

Any idea what the penalties on breaking it are?

Fines, point deductions, transfer bans etc.

It's all muddy waters though isn't it. I'm sure there are ways around it.

Edited August 2, 2017 by jyoung

[lost]

I don't see a problem to be honest. He'll stay in the champions league, both france and spain have two bigs clubs who dominate Monaco/PSG vs Barcelona and Real Madrid. It may pull more investment into the french league if they look like getting more champions league spots.

Don't people get bored of the same teams dominating year after year?

[thetime]

15 minutes ago, lost said:

 

Don't people get bored of the same teams dominating year after year?

There should not be FFP in my opinion, always said it. Just a way of keeping the big boys at the top and the others a near impossible way to challenge. why shouldn't clubs/fans dream of having a top team like your chelseas and citys of the world? 

[Dan R]

9 minutes ago, lost said:

I don't see a problem to be honest. He'll stay in the champions league, both france and spain have two bigs clubs who dominate Monaco/PSG vs Barcelona and Real Madrid. It may pull more investment into the french league if they look like getting more champions league spots.

Don't people get bored of the same teams dominating year after year?

Doesn't really make a difference, just that Barcelona played some truly stunning football at times with that front three, and I can't see any team playing to those levels for a while now, which personally I think is a shame.

Plus I don't want Barca to come in with a mega bid for Coutinho...

[lost]

Just now, Dan R said:

Doesn't really make a difference, just that Barcelona played some truly stunning football at times with that front three,

Its definitely going bugger peoples FIFA ultimate drafts.

[Hugh Jass]

FFP was a noble idea, but it has been completely botched by being so vague that the biggest clubs (who it was supposed to curtail) can find ways around it. As said above, all it has done is stop another Abramovic/Mansour investing billions into some no hopers (say West Brom for example) and challenging the elite.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Hugh Jass

[The Nal]

1 hour ago, Dan R said:

Will his image rights contribute towards FFP? Not too familiar with PSGs squad, but they've not really sold any players yet. Plus selling big players could make winning the CL more unlikely this season. And regarding the next world cup, surely Ronaldo and Messi's time will have passed and Neymar would be the main man at Barca.

Yeah but Qatar don't own Barca. They own PSG though. He'll be an ambassador for the 2022 World Cup. 

31 minutes ago, Dan R said:

Plus I don't want Barca to come in with a mega bid for Coutinho...

Not sure Barca want to either. Hes a big downgrade from Neymar.