Sam Fender

[NorthernSoul52]

Just now, Padjeq said:

4th time seeing him the other night in Brum. New songs sound better and bigger than the rest. Really impressed in the wild long lie one, and the highlight People Watching.

People Watching going to stick around into next summer. Will be curious to see if it is still placing high in January after the Xmas songs have left the charts, but at the very least, expect a boost when the album proper lands.

[Padjeq]

3 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

People Watching going to stick around into next summer. Will be curious to see if it is still placing high in January after the Xmas songs have left the charts, but at the very least, expect a boost when the album proper lands.

 

Think it's dropped out the top 40. Could have a comeback, but I think the first big hits of January 25 will be Lola Young and Ceechynaa.

 

Edited Monday at 12:43 PM by Padjeq

[NorthernSoul52]

21 minutes ago, Padjeq said:

 

Think it's dropped out the top 40. Could have a comeback, but I think the first big hits of January 25 will be Lola Young and Ceechynaa.

 

Don't remember them on the tracklist.

[Padjeq]

10 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Don't remember them on the tracklist.

 

teehee

[Spindles]

I've never doubted he was 'big enough' to headline, personally.  The response he got in 22 was enough to prove that with one more album under his belt he'd be at that level.  This year feels like the perfect year for him, home grown lad at the peak of his powers stepping out onto the big stage, it just feels like a natural choice to me.

[NorthernSoul52]

Like I said, it's The 1975, Olivia Rodrigo and Sam Fender for me. But I know many are distressed by that notion.

[circus92]

22 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Like I said, it's The 1975, Olivia Rodrigo and Sam Fender for me. But I know many are distressed by that notion.

I would 100% be at all 3 then.  Not really looking to be at The Pyramid every night, but with that line-up I absolutely would be

[NorthernSoul52]

If I was there, me too. But alas, It looks unlikely at this juncture. 

[fullfathom5]

5 hours ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

I’d much prefer Sam to the 1975 as a headliner 

👍

[circus92]

17 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

If I was there, me too. But alas, It looks unlikely at this juncture. 

Are you not going to try resale?

[NorthernSoul52]

Ah, no. I've got plans going over the period. Won't be my time!

[Ayrshire Chris]

Just back from seeing Sam Fender in Glasgow. An ideal Glastonbury headliner, appeals to a wide range of age groups from kids to, eh, my age ( I changed the words to seventy going under😉).  Despite him struggling a wee bit with a cold it was a tremendous gig. 

[Alvoram]

1 hour ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Just back from seeing Sam Fender in Glasgow. An ideal Glastonbury headliner, appeals to a wide range of age groups from kids to, eh, my age ( I changed the words to seventy going under😉).  Despite him struggling a wee bit with a cold it was a tremendous gig. 

Anybody who saw his 2022 fill in, which I think is most of us, surely agrees he's a future headliner. Outstanding set, one of the sets of the weekend on the Pyramid that year. (If not THE set.) 

It does feel a little early though, like he needs one or two more massive hits. Maybe I'm wrong there, I dunno, he certainly didn't need them for his last set on that field. 🤷‍♂️

[NorthernSoul52]

If he gets another barnstormer off the record, he'll do fine. Stuff like Getting Started - minor successes, arguably - are natural festival burners, so they'll play fine. 

[El Scorcho]

Glasgow and Newcastle shows cancelled due to illness

Edited 20 hours ago by El Scorcho

[Ayrshire Chris]

1 hour ago, El Scorcho said:

Glasgow and Newcastle shows cancelled due to illness

Was at last nights Glasgow gig and although he struggled at some times it still sounded really good. Songs such as dying light weren’t compromised by his vocal problems. Half way through he left the stage for a couple of minutes,probably for medication. He joked about taking steroids. London Calling was sang by the band and he just did back up

hope he gets better soon, know a few folk who were going tonight. There was also a lot of folk there last night who had travelled up from England. They will be gutted at the cancellation 

Edited 19 hours ago by Ayrshire Chris

[charlierc]

6 hours ago, El Scorcho said:

Glasgow and Newcastle shows cancelled due to illness

Oof. Depending on how long that is for vocal rest, having to be mute for Christmas sounds possible and so not fun.

[ClementsMike]

Shame to see this , and could be a reason he doesn’t get the pick to headline Glastonbury, given his record. 
 

(He was only backing on London Calling all tour).

[Suprefan]

22 hours ago, Alvoram said:

Anybody who saw his 2022 fill in, which I think is most of us, surely agrees he's a future headliner. Outstanding set, one of the sets of the weekend on the Pyramid that year. (If not THE set.) 

It does feel a little early though, like he needs one or two more massive hits. Maybe I'm wrong there, I dunno, he certainly didn't need them for his last set on that field. 🤷‍♂️

 

How much bigger does he need to get if he is booking stadiums now. If the new album has some solid tunes and you mix those in with what he has then its all you need. I dont know why people think you totally need to have just an entire setlist of  number 1 singles and barely be on album 3. things change, criteria changes. Anyone say Stormzy wasnt good enough? Olivia will be on album 2 still when she hits the stage. Billie was on album 2. Anyone arguing any of this were not up to spec? Sza even met the criteria, its just she wasnt received as it shouldve been.

[Alvoram]

1 hour ago, Suprefan said:

 

How much bigger does he need to get if he is booking stadiums now. If the new album has some solid tunes and you mix those in with what he has then its all you need. I dont know why people think you totally need to have just an entire setlist of  number 1 singles and barely be on album 3. things change, criteria changes. Anyone say Stormzy wasnt good enough? Olivia will be on album 2 still when she hits the stage. Billie was on album 2. Anyone arguing any of this were not up to spec? Sza even met the criteria, its just she wasnt received as it shouldve been.

I don't know. But I do know there are hundreds, if not thousands of acts that can sell out stadiums and never get to headline the Pyramid stage. Likewise there are acts that do not have the massive track record of selling out stadiums that might. I'm not sure that's 'the' key metric used to be honest. 

Also, I said one or two more massive hits, not a whole set of them. Don't get me wrong, I love him, and I'd be at the stage in a heartbeat if he was headlining. But in terms of individual songs, and the 'stats' he's had a good few less hits than Billie when she headlined, (we're talking a millions vs billions on the board, quite a difference.) Olivia if she does headline (similar story here.) His streaming / sales figures are even lower than Sza, by some margin. BUT, I don't think this is always a good metric either, if there was ever any doubt then Sza proved that. And you're right, things could look very different after February anyway. 🤞

When somebody is the right fit (which I think Sam is) and it's the right time (this I'm not so sure about,) then it's just meant to be, isn't it? Stadium tours, streaming numbers, album sales etc are all just noise really. The pyramid crowd just want to be entertained, and more often than not it's music that they're familiar with that gets the party going on the main stage. In this respect, it's certainly not going to hurt any potential Pyramid set, if his album is great and spawns a couple more hit songs, is it? 

[NorthernSoul52]

Fender's health issues are well-documented. It is why, sadly, I don't think he'll ever have the touring legs to crack America in earnest.

 

Glastonbury can be a goer, but agree his record there could factor against him.

[Gnomicide]

If nothing else, it gives everyone the opportunity to say "liability" in a Geordie accent, which is quite satisfying. 

[matrainertje]

On 12/17/2024 at 2:48 AM, Alvoram said:

It does feel a little early though, like he needs one or two more massive hits. Maybe I'm wrong there, I dunno, he certainly didn't need them for his last set on that field. 🤷‍♂️

The next record will be quite important actually. Curious if it will feature a big hit song. That first single isn't doing much sadly. 

[WhoOdyssey]

37 minutes ago, matrainertje said:

The next record will be quite important actually. Curious if it will feature a big hit song. That first single isn't doing much sadly. 

Always hard releasing new music at this time of year though (these days at least).

 

The song would be at #15 in the charts this week without Christmas songs - not bad imo!

[matrainertje]

12 minutes ago, WhoOdyssey said:

Always hard releasing new music at this time of year though (these days at least).

 

The song would be at #15 in the charts this week without Christmas songs - not bad imo!

Not that bad, but I sure hope it's not the record's biggest song. It feels more like a sweet little teaser (could be a b-side off of the last album) than a big return.