Corona Virus - Should we be worried?

[chazwwe]

Just now, jparx said:

Glad you've confirmed that for us, thanks!

As I've said previously, this isn't just about 'good will'. Its a tax nightmare and I've never heard of an event in the music industry thats been out right cancelled and following that the tickets being put on for another tour.
 

[kalifire]

How long do people here reckon Emily will give it before making a statement? I appreciate an “official spokesperson” has said it’s going ahead, but this is (d)evolving so quickly it’s almost irrelevant what someone said a week or two ago. 

[FakeEmpire]

1 minute ago, The Nal said:

Santana has cancelled his European tour. Two big acts this morning.

I know they weren't playing but this festival ain't happening folks.

These shows are next week, not in June.

[morph100]

refund or deposit valid for next year, your choice would be the best and i dont see why it would be a logistical nightmare, any refunds can be dealt with next year like a re-sale would be this year.

[chazwwe]

1 minute ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Italy have only tested a small number of people, the most accurate figures will be from those who have tested the most which is South Korea. They have the mortality rate as 0.7%, the actual death rate will be lower than this again still, as they won’t diagnose every case however many people you test.

The actual mortality rate will never be know, but it will be lower than the figures from the country who have tested the most people... why is this so hard for people to grasp!!!

 

Sorry for using official WHO numbers. I'll take your opinion over theirs. 

For me personally and my step dad, we both have a fairly high chance of not surviving this. 

If that makes you feel better about me not 'grasping it'. 

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, The Nal said:

Santana has cancelled his European tour. Two big acts this morning.

I know they weren't playing but this festival ain't happening folks.

older acts are likely to cancel their plans earlier, I'd say. And acts can (very probably) be replaced with other acts.

And I don't think the festival cancelling of its own choice will be an option, it'll probably need insurance to pay out if it cancels which means cancellation will need to be forced upon it.

 

[Matt42]

I feel like this festival getting cancelled is an inevitability now. 
 

Not because the virus will kill everyone

not because it won’t be “better” by june

but because it’s getting increasingly clear that artists don’t want to tour at all when this is all going on. I think Glasto will be forced to pull the plug if it becomes clear that none of the international acts are planning on turning up.

[babyblade41]

I think the sensible thing to do is to all take sensible precautions . MY OH has a very bad heart condition and although not in a vulnerable age range he is in a vulnerable group and we are doing everything possible to reduce the risk without impacting on work etc. until told otherwise 

He works in a garage of 3 others so not as bad as some working in an office. If I can't get shopping delivered which is nigh on impossible at the min then I go at 5.00 when very few people are about 

 

It's a calculated risk at the minute and we rarely go out so not a problem socialising certainly in the short term

I fully expect it to get worse in the next few weeks and thankfully Easter is near and schools will be closed anyway .

 

Just take care and look after one another and remember ..coughs and sneezes spread diseases.. , cough it, bag it, bin it 

[Madyaker]

1 minute ago, kalifire said:

How long do people here reckon Emily will give it before making a statement? I appreciate an “official spokesperson” has said it’s going ahead, but this is (d)evolving so quickly it’s almost irrelevant what someone said a week or two ago. 

I still think they’ll still do and say fuck all out of the ordinary until someone from government tells them to do otherwise. 

[chazwwe]

2 minutes ago, kalifire said:

How long do people here reckon Emily will give it before making a statement? I appreciate an “official spokesperson” has said it’s going ahead, but this is (d)evolving so quickly it’s almost irrelevant what someone said a week or two ago. 

Next week or two when the line up drops, they'll do a pretty standard 'Festival is still going ahead but we're in talks with the government and health officials and keeping an eye on everything to make it a safe festival for everyone.' etc 

[topmarksbri]

I'm oscillating wildly between this is all fine and this is all terrible. 

[GoonerRob]

It's logical that this virus will not go away between now and June.... it could be contained to a point or the numbers may reduce by then however there will still be a risk as there are lots of people gathering in one place... if you are seriously at risk, surely you wouldnt go anyway?

[kalifire]

Just now, Madyaker said:

I still think they’ll still do and say fuck all out of the ordinary until someone from government tells them to do otherwise. 

It would be good to hear her say that, then. 

[Henrik]

I actually think the festival will go ahead. If we are still cancelling events in June then we will have a lot more to worry about than the festival. The economy will be in ruins. 

I guess the only worry is they act too early and decide to bin it off in the next few weeks. 

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, northernringo said:

As far as I'm aware, the temperature of the water won't matter - it would have to be boiling to have an effect. Washing in cold water with soap will do the job.

Of course however, it won't be as comfortable which may cause issues as people won't want to do it for as long or as thoroughly.

That's good to know - but yes the issue there is it's so packed in in those tiny toilet blocks, with like one sink between about 20 people in a little sweaty urinal box, with a queue outside. If everyone washed their hands even a normal pre-national anthem singing amount (most just don't at all) it'd take ages. 

  

1 hour ago, Havors said:

They actually  have running water in that old shed??  

Sometimes - we did have a game called off a few years back on Boxing Day because the pipes froze....

Edited March 10, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

Glasto will be forced to pull the plug if it becomes clear that none of the international acts are planning on turning up.

There’s plenty of non international acts that would love to perform especially if international travel is banned. 
 

If Elton has to cancel his US tour I’m sure he’d be very welcome on the Pyramid. 

[Andy0808 v5]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

I feel like this festival getting cancelled is an inevitability now. 
 

Not because the virus will kill everyone

not because it won’t be “better” by june

but because it’s getting increasingly clear that artists don’t want to tour at all when this is all going on. I think Glasto will be forced to pull the plug if it becomes clear that none of the international acts are planning on turning up.

You’re the worst person for posting in this thread.

Weren’t you just last week panicking about the religious impact when the pope died? And he didn’t even have the virus.

Chill the fuck out.

[TownesMR]

7 minutes ago, Henrik said:

People do need to get over the idea of tickets rolling over to next year if this year gets cancelled. There is absolutely no chance of that happening. 

If its cancelled people will be refunded. Anything else would be a logistical nightmare. 

Aren't several other festivals already doing this though? I've worked with ticket systems in the past and it's entirely possible to change event dates that are valid for tickets

[The Nal]

3 minutes ago, FakeEmpire said:

These shows are next week, not in June.

Pearl Jams were June/July.

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

older acts are likely to cancel their plans earlier, I'd say. And acts can (very probably) be replaced with other acts.

And I don't think the festival cancelling of its own choice will be an option, it'll probably need insurance to pay out if it cancels which means cancellation will need to be forced upon it.

Like a government policy or acts pulling out all over the place?

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

1 minute ago, chazwwe said:

As I've said previously, this isn't just about 'good will'. Its a tax nightmare and I've never heard of an event in the music industry thats been out right cancelled and following that the tickets being put on for another tour.
 

Get that out of your head, the festival can do what they see fit with the balance money from a tax point of view, keep it or refund it.

Independent of that the festival could if they so wished and decided it was appropriate, offer some sort of presale for people who were successful for 2020.

The tax implications don’t need to come into it, the two things are not inextricably linked, the festival can do what it wants with regards to both.

For what it’s worth I don’t think they’d bother with some sort of presale, but tax implications don’t need to prevent them from doing so!

[kalifire]

I’m in the unfortunate position of having a boss who previously worked in a senior position in emergency healthcare, and a girlfriend who previously worked for the State government in disaster planning strategy and management. The doom coming out of their collective mouths is starting to feed some genuine anxiety here, with or without Glastonbury 50. 

I guess I haven’t helped myself by downloading the Plague Inc. game and calling my disease Covid-19. 

Edited March 10, 2020 by kalifire

[Matt42]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

There’s plenty of non international acts that would love to perform especially if international travel is banned. 

If Elton has to cancel his US tour I’m sure he’d be very welcome on the Pyramid. 

It’s a bit make believe. Pretty sure Elton lives in America anyway.

 

2 minutes ago, Andy0808 v5 said:

You’re the worst person for posting in this thread.

Weren’t you just last week panicking about the religious impact when the pope died? And he didn’t even have the virus.

Chill the fuck out.

All completely valid claims though. If you can’t handle the fact that this is a serious possibility and that people are quite upset about this why are you here?

[The Red Telephone]

Bad news Lads - a major event I was booked on has been cancelled due to the virus, I have just found out. Was due to be next Saturday.

Yes, the Introduction to Cardiac MRI for Radiographers study day at Hammersmith Hospital has bitten the bullet.

[TownesMR]

4 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Pearl Jams were June/July.

It was Pearl Jam's North American Leg which starts next week

[Lycra]

6 minutes ago, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Italy have only tested a small number of people, the most accurate figures will be from those who have tested the most which is South Korea. They have the mortality rate as 0.7%, the actual death rate will be lower than this again still, as they won’t diagnose every case however many people you test.

The actual mortality rate will never be know, but it will be lower than the figures from the country who have tested the most people... why is this so hard for people to grasp!!!

 

Following your argument that the death rate is lower because of the number of undiagnosed cases, the same would true of any viral infection, e.g. seasonal flu. In all datasets firm baselines are needed to enable comparison.