When will this shit end?

[Fuzzy Afro]

Reckon this will be a November style lockdown with schools closed (ie Tier 4 + no schools) rather than a March lockdown 

[st dan]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Reckon this will be a November style lockdown with schools closed (ie Tier 4 + no schools) rather than a March lockdown 

What’s the difference between a Tier 4 and no schools and a March lockdown though? Genuine question as I can’t think off the top of my head. 

[xxialac]

April 1st would seem the most appropriate exit date for this rabble.

[Guest]

Just now, st dan said:

What’s the difference between a Tier 4 and no schools and a March lockdown though? Genuine question as I can’t think off the top of my head. 

You can meet outside with a 1 person not in your household and support bubbles. Team sports are also allowed in tier 4.

[Andre91]

5 minutes ago, jparx said:

What a fucking waste of time having kids and teaching/admin staff go back to schools for one day. What an unnecessary risk. Can’t imagine a less pro active government.

They do not give a single fuck about anybody. 

The anger at work today has been unrivalled. I have never felt so much genuine anger from speaking to colleagues in the 4 years I've been a qualified teacher. People are angry that their otherwise 'safe' household bubbles, who have been sticking to the rules to the letter, could have been compromised for one pointless day of teaching 1-2 children per class. 

If SMT haven't spent today compiling a rota for the staff who want to come in (because there are some and there was during the first lockdown) to supervise the key worker / vulnerable children over the next few weeks, I think that there will be many, many staff (myself included) refusing to come in tomorrow for another pointless, reckless day like today. We had kids turning up with no masks today ffs. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Andre91

[squirrelarmy]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

FFS .... hes bloody clashing with the football 😞 ..... Just another example of the torys hating Liverpool 

Watching him will just make you angry anyway. There will be a live breakdown in here as it happens so you should be able to watch the footy and this thread at the same time. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, st dan said:

What’s the difference between a Tier 4 and no schools and a March lockdown though? Genuine question as I can’t think off the top of my head. 

Dominic Cummings 

[squirrelarmy]

Just now, Andre91 said:

They do not give a single fuck about anybody. 

The anger at work today has been unrivalled. I have never felt so much genuine anger from speaking to colleagues in the 4 years I've been a qualified teacher. People are angry that their otherwise 'safe' household bubbles, who have been sticking to the rules to the letter, could have been compromised for one pointless day of teaching 1-2 children per class. 

If SMT haven't spent today compiling a rota for the staff who want to come in (because there are some and there was during the first lockdown) to supervise the key worker / vulnerable children over the next few weeks, I think that there will be many, many staff (myself included) refusing to come in tomorrow for another pointless, reckless day like today. 

My mate spent her day being paid to sharpen pencils. 

[Losing my hair]

4 minutes ago, Brownie30 said:

Feeling very down and helpless about this whole situation now. The "all together" spirit from last March - April seems downtrodden, the Government have learned precisely nothing from their abject handling of the entire situation, and I suspect those of us in single houses are now set for another few months of self-isolated loneliness (I know about bubbles etc, but it's still true). I know it is necessary, I believe it is necessary and agree with a strong lockdown and hope this includes schools - but can't help but feel incredibly exhausted by this point. 

You're not alone, there's many of us in the same situation. I haven't seen my mum in ages, or my daughter who is pregnant (and a teacher!), or my grandchildren or my mates.

You might like to join us on our Zoom meetings - see the Virtual Meet thread - where you can chat, let off steam and laugh with others from the forum. I'm not sure when the next one is, @crazyfool1 normally organises them, just keep an eye on the thread.

 

[ace56blaa]

3 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

 

Lots of places were shut down but they didn't legally have to. Because the furlough scheme existed, and because demand was dropping as places were closing, many, many places shut down and furloughed staff because there wasn't the work. Even more shut down and furloughed staff because they saw the long term impacts this would have (and at this point, we thought it'd be a couple of months lock down then "back to normal") and decided to shut down take the furlough money while it was on the table.

There's a huge difference between what had to close in March and what did close in March.

There's some stats and a broad timeline here: https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/data/data-news/peak-site-closure-figures-revealed-as-work-restarts-25-05-2020/

But less than half of construction sites shut in March. Some of these open will have been "essential" works but others won't.

In May construction was encouraged to reopen: https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/government/construction-actively-encouraged-to-work-says-boris-11-05-2020/

The other thing to bear in mind is that a lot of UK construction is public sector so that May date might have corresponded with when public sector sites re-opened, which could be what you're remembering!

Ah so our lockdown was never even as strict as most thought it was. 

I can't believe how soft the governments approach has been throughout, yet loonies still claim they are tryna take away our freedoms for some reason

[Homer]

5 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Ah so outdoor team sports were allowed in tier 4! Answers my earlier question then.

No press conference is a cowardly move.

I know this one. Outdoor team sports like football only allowed for children in tier 4. I've seen a few people playing tennis too.

[gooner1990]

A lot of people aren't bothering with the Tier 4 restrictions anyway so not sure what difference this is going to make?

[Homer]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

You can meet outside with a 1 person not in your household and support bubbles. Team sports are also allowed in tier 4.

Only for children. Definitely the case as I usually play footie a few times a week.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

26 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

I’m going to say this now and I’m willing to accept people piling on.

I don’t think we will hit our vaccination targets. I think we will be seriously behind judging by how far behind we have been with everything.

I reckon our peak time for vaccinations will be mid-spring / early summer.

For what it's worth Matt, I agree with you. I don't think a lockdown now secures a festival summer (that critical point came and went late last year), it's being put in place to reduce and slow down the infection rate whilst they struggle to introduce the vaccination programme, which, let's be honest about it, is probably going to take the government at least six months to get the necessary numbers vaccinated, given their performance thus far.

I feel like if we were at this exact point in September 2020, we may have stood a chance but sadly, as it is, I just can't see it happening. That said, although it means the world to us all on this forum, there are much more important things going on right now. 

Could this be the day when GFL realise an event in 2021 is no longer a realistic possibility or do we think they'll continue to see how the next 7 or 8 weeks plays out?

[JoeyT]

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 minute ago, ace56blaa said:

Ah so our lockdown was never even as strict as most thought it was. 

I can't believe how soft the governments approach has been throughout, yet loonies still claim they are tryna take away our freedoms for some reason

The rules on social mixing are basically the most draconian in Europe though. 

[Homer]

Any word on if support bubbles will be maintained? Being to go to my mate's for a drink has been a real bonus (he lives on his own).

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, JoeyT said:

 

The Nando’s scale returns!!!

[Fuzzy Afro]

Just now, Homer said:

Any word on if support bubbles will be maintained? Being to go to my mate's for a drink has been a real bonus (he lives on his own).

Would be shocked if they’re binned. 

[Brownie30]

2 minutes ago, Losing my hair said:

You're not alone, there's many of us in the same situation. I haven't seen my mum in ages, or my daughter who is pregnant (and a teacher!), or my grandchildren or my mates.

You might like to join us on our Zoom meetings - see the Virtual Meet thread - where you can chat, let off steam and laugh with others from the forum. I'm not sure when the next one is, @crazyfool1 normally organises them, just keep an eye on the thread.

 

Appreciate this a lot and will certainly give the thread a look! Stay safe 🙂

[Guest]

Just now, Homer said:

Any word on if support bubbles will be maintained? Being to go to my mate's for a drink has been a real bonus (he lives on his own).

I live on my own too so I’d be interested to know this.

[xxialac]

 

[zahidf]

 

[Homer]

4 minutes ago, Losing my hair said:

You're not alone, there's many of us in the same situation. I haven't seen my mum in ages, or my daughter who is pregnant (and a teacher!), or my grandchildren or my mates.

You might like to join us on our Zoom meetings - see the Virtual Meet thread - where you can chat, let off steam and laugh with others from the forum. I'm not sure when the next one is, @crazyfool1 normally organises them, just keep an eye on the thread.

 

I stumbled into one drunk about a month ago and everyone was very nice! I'd quite like to do it again, but my wife already mocks me enough for talking to my friends on the internet via this forum as it is!

[Homer]

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Would be shocked if they’re binned. 

The first lockdown did seem pretty harsh. My mate was basically on his own for about four months or whatever it was. It was quite hard to coax him back out at first!