Primavera Sound 2021

[Nesser]

That Reddit user is taking the info from a guy from another forum known for his absurd, no-funny-at-all humor sense, so take it with a pinch of salt because he may be trolling. Gabi and him have colaborated in the past but I find it weird that he's building hype for another postponement given the current state of things. 

Wouldn't be surprised if they announced something tomorrow tbqf, but I really really hope they have the guts to face the situation and not another hey guys we're trying this thing again! 

 

[xxialac]

54 minutes ago, Nesser said:

That Reddit user is taking the info from a guy from another forum known for his absurd, no-funny-at-all humor sense, so take it with a pinch of salt because he may be trolling. Gabi and him have colaborated in the past but I find it weird that he's building hype for another postponement given the current state of things. 

Wouldn't be surprised if they announced something tomorrow tbqf, but I really really hope they have the guts to face the situation and not another hey guys we're trying this thing again! 

 

What else can they do other than to say 'we trying again' in the face of an evolving pandemic and no government guarantees?

[Quadrophobia]

27 minutes ago, xxialac said:

What else can they do other than to say 'we trying again' in the face of an evolving pandemic and no government guarantees?

Postponement to 2022 which is the only logical thing to do. 

We have to face it, with the mutants gaining ground rapidly in continental Europe and the lowered efficacy of some vaccines against them, people tired of lockdown and governments unwilling to go into a proper shutdown to stop the spread, 2021 is completely off the table. 

[xxialac]

2 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said:

Postponement to 2022 which is the only logical thing to do. 

We have to face it, with the mutants gaining ground rapidly in continental Europe and the lowered efficacy of some vaccines against them, people tired of lockdown and governments unwilling to go into a proper shutdown to stop the spread, 2021 is completely off the table. 

If the mutants were 'gaining ground rapidly', wouldn't the numbers in continental Europe be rising?

Here in Spain they are falling and fast - look at the trend line.

[Hannibal Schmitt]

5 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said:

Postponement to 2022 which is the only logical thing to do. 

We have to face it, with the mutants gaining ground rapidly in continental Europe and the lowered efficacy of some vaccines against them, people tired of lockdown and governments unwilling to go into a proper shutdown to stop the spread, 2021 is completely off the table. 

The mutants won`t have disappeared in 2022. There simply needs to be a (long term) concept for artists, promotors and festival-organizers because nobody can tell now if 2022 will be be any better.

[Quadrophobia]

Just now, xxialac said:

If the mutants were 'gaining ground rapidly', wouldn't the numbers in continental Europe be rising?

Here in Spain they are falling and fast - look at the trend line.

This is a common - and understandable - misconception. As measures across Europe are relatively strict right now, numbers decline overall. However underneath this graph you'll find a steeply rising one for the mutant which is - at least for now - not significant enough in terms of absolute numbers to make the cases climp again. But we'll reach a point where exactly that will happen in many countries, depending on national and local measures of course. 

[xxialac]

Just now, Quadrophobia said:

This is a common - and understandable - misconception. As measures across Europe are relatively strict right now, numbers decline overall. However underneath this graph you'll find a steeply rising one for the mutant which is - at least for now - not significant enough in terms of absolute numbers to make the cases climp again. But we'll reach a point where exactly that will happen in many countries, depending on national and local measures of course. 

I hear you but the situation is Spain is not relatively strict. Far from it.

Shops are open, restaurants open including inside dining, schools open, cinemas open, gyms open, travel within one's region possible.

And the numbers are going down all the while they have been relaxing restrictions.

 

[Quadrophobia]

1 minute ago, xxialac said:

I hear you but the situation is Spain is not relatively strict. Far from it.

Shops are open, restaurants open including inside dining, schools open, cinemas open, gyms open, travel within one's region possible.

And the numbers are going down all the while they have been relaxing restrictions.

 

Well I truly hope that they continue to do so. I do not know the proportion of the British mutation in Spain, but in many other places it is already becoming dominant. In Germany it now makes up around 20% of cases, with its R-value (the number of people one infected person infects) is approximately 1.09 compared to 0.7 for the original variant. That is highly problematic, since any rate above 1 means numbers will rise eventually. 

[Nesser]

1 hour ago, xxialac said:

What else can they do other than to say 'we trying again' in the face of an evolving pandemic and no government guarantees?

Say there is no option to gather 65k people without masks or social distancing in 2021, announce the possibility to transfer your 2020 ticket to 2022/refund your ticket and tease new events for this year in compliance with the restrictions regarding capacity: Nits del Forum Expanded/Primavera Weekender/whatever.

[Quadrophobia]

8 minutes ago, mashinko said:

We have to face it, with the corona terrorism everyday through media, we will never ever go to concert again. 

Thanks to everyone who believes that this virus is so deadly. Fuck masks, fuck social distancing, fuck this stupid modern world.

Can't wait to go to Mars with Elon Musk because people are so fuckin stupid

Yet you bear an avatar of a man who had Covid twice and tells you to do the exact opposite of what you blare out into the world. 

[Nesser]

Leave him alone ranting and go on

[Ohjesus]

30 minutes ago, mashinko said:

We have to face it, with the corona terrorism everyday through media, we will never ever go to concert again. 

Thanks to everyone who believes that this virus is so deadly. Fuck masks, fuck social distancing, fuck this stupid modern world.

Can't wait to go to Mars with Elon Musk because people are so fuckin stupid

How quickly can you get to Mars? 

[Ohjesus]

7 minutes ago, mashinko said:

Dont know, still waiting for Elon's e-mail. 

At least, there is no need for negative corona test. I'll come back in 2045 for first Primavera after corona edition

I had Covid, it was fucking horrible. My uncle had it and died. 

[Nesser]

33 minutes ago, Nesser said:

Leave him alone ranting and go on

 

[lighthouse]

3 hours ago, Quadrophobia said:

We have to face it, with the mutants gaining ground rapidly in continental Europe and the lowered efficacy of some vaccines against them, people tired of lockdown and governments unwilling to go into a proper shutdown to stop the spread, 2021 is completely off the table. 

I have the feeling things are going in the right direction. Of course there will be 'mutants', but that word sounds scarier than it is. Worldwide there's a very clear drop in new cases already. We knew by last that this virus will be around even this fall. And in 2023 too. And heck, in 2031 as well. 

 

[bluenova]

4 hours ago, Quadrophobia said:

Postponement to 2022 which is the only logical thing to do. 

We have to face it, with the mutants gaining ground rapidly in continental Europe and the lowered efficacy of some vaccines against them, people tired of lockdown and governments unwilling to go into a proper shutdown to stop the spread, 2021 is completely off the table. 

Even with the "lowered efficacy" all the indications are that the main vaccines will stop almost 100% of moderate/serious illness/hospitalisations and deaths, even with different variants.

The "lowered" part that is being reported means that it's not going to be wiped out completely, but it will be a lot harder to catch, and for most vaccinated people it will be mild or no symptoms. Unless something new happens, it's looking like we'll be in a position where we can live with Covid.

[Ohjesus]

A friend who runs a UK fest in May is about to cancel, in a move that will surprise no one... 

Edited February 18, 2021 by Ohjesus

[Ohjesus]

58 minutes ago, mashinko said:

My friend almost died few weeks ago, and you know why? His condition went worse in a short time because they didn't want to put him in hospital until he gets negative covid test. And the same situation was with my mom in may last year.

They both had a pulmonary embolism.

And most important, they didn't have the deadliest virus in history, called corona. 

There’s no Covid on Mars. Just sayin’

[Ohjesus]

@mashinkodownvotes people who’ve lost relatives to Covid. Top guy. 

[Ohjesus]

Just now, mashinko said:

@Ohjesusand others downvotes people who almost lost people to not covid 🤔

 

Are you a covid denier?

[Ohjesus]

Just now, mashinko said:

No, but also I'm not covid fan like you. Goodbye. 

Yes - quite right - was it my phrase “it was fucking horrible” that gave me away?

[Nesser]

Unsurprisingly OG leaker (don't want to get angry) now says nothing tomorrow but first week of March. Once again, this means nothing.

[FloorFiller]

1 hour ago, Nesser said:

Unsurprisingly OG leaker (don't want to get angry) now says nothing tomorrow but first week of March. Once again, this means nothing.

Bah 

[Nesser]

Mobile World Congress goes ahead halving its capacity and being a "touchless" event. Very similar to what we can expect at a festival, so great news.

 

Meanwhile, a totally unrelated event like Hellfest has been cancelled.

https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la-loire/nantes-44000/entretien-hellfest-ben-barbaud-confirme-que-le-hellfest-2021-n-aura-pas-lieu-7159602

 

[Ohjesus]

11 minutes ago, Nesser said:

Mobile World Congress goes ahead halving its capacity and being a "touchless" event. Very similar to what we can expect at a festival, so great news.

 

Meanwhile, a totally unrelated event like Hellfest has been cancelled.

https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la-loire/nantes-44000/entretien-hellfest-ben-barbaud-confirme-que-le-hellfest-2021-n-aura-pas-lieu-7159602

 

This is good news, but halving capacity - how could that work with festivals, especially sold out ones?