Football 2020/2021

[eFestivals]

14 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

The truth is, you cannot make a handball rule a binary decision (because otherwise teams would look to induce handballs, or players would be allowed to handle the ball). 

Spurs had their last kick of the game by kicking it against the arm of a Newc defender. Looked like that's what they were trying to do, too.
(was outside the box, and no handball was given).

But for the teams that can't shoot straight, there's fuck all point aiming for someone's arm.  

[DareToDibble]

To this day I am absolutely convinced that's exactly what Mane did in the CL final v Spurs. 

[DareToDibble]

45 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

It’s both, and the third issue is poor implementation of a shit rule by shit officials - who aren’t helped by VAR.

The truth is, you cannot make a handball rule a binary decision (because otherwise teams would look to induce handballs, or players would be allowed to handle the ball). 
 

VAR is crap for any decisions that aren’t binary. Therefore officials, whether referees or otherwise, are making a subjective decision. Which leads to inconsistency. Which is no improvement to life before VAR and actually is a change for the worse due to the long delays it causes. 

Fair points.

I just think VAR works well when I watch other leagues and most of the time in the CL. Which would lead me to believe the main issue is the way it is being implemented here. Whether that is our referees or the law makers is another conversation though I guess.

[thetime]

United got the record last season 13 penalties in 38 games. Leicester have 5 in 3 games, that record is getting smashed this season.

[squirrelarmy]

3 hours ago, Ted Dansons Wig said:

Bamford for England..

Watching England is stressful enough already. Plus we need to keep Lord Bamford in shape for prem survival. 

[TheGayTent]

3 hours ago, Ted Dansons Wig said:

Bamford for England..

Worse players than Bamford have worn an England shirt and better players haven’t. 

[DareToDibble]

51 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Worse players than Bamford have worn an England shirt and better players haven’t. 

The minute I read this David Nugent popped into my head. Still remember that goal he robbed from Defoe. Shithouse  

[Ted Dansons Wig]

1 hour ago, TheGayTent said:

Worse players than Bamford have worn an England shirt and better players haven’t. 

I'm serious. Bamford for England

[thetime]

20 minutes ago, Ted Dansons Wig said:

I'm serious. Bamford for England

Calvert-lewin is ahead of him to be picked.

[pink_triangle]

6 hours ago, DareToDibble said:

The penalties this season already have been ridiculous but the issue isn't VAR, it's the rule itself. 

I disagree, the rules are trying to fit in with a world of VAR. Previously we didn't aim for this level of perfection and football was better for it.

[squirrelarmy]

57 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I disagree, the rules are trying to fit in with a world of VAR. Previously we didn't aim for this level of perfection and football was better for it.

It needs to be similar to try scoring decisions in Rugby league. Was the contact intentional and did he have any control over his arms or was he even aware of the ball coming towards him. I’ve seen many tries disallowed because while the player may have made contact with the ground he had lost control of the ball. Video ref works for rugby very well, you know what the decision is going to be before it is declared. 
 

I can’t remember what the opposition to VR was like when Superleague began but I imagine it was pretty similar to this but instead of arguing about it in the pub with your mates the conversations are all over the internet. 
 

VAR will take time to settle down and so will new rule changes. It’s not as simple as if the ball hits the arm then it’s a handball. It has to be a judgement call by the referee making the decision. 
 

The rule is here to stay for this season at least, all we can hope for is that refs try to get a better understanding of how to apply the rule. As long as they all agree to act on decisions equally then we have nothing to complain about. 
 

Anyone know what the record is for most penalties in a single season of the premier league? I think it will be smashed this season. 

[TheGayTent]

2 hours ago, thetime said:

Calvert-lewin is ahead of him to be picked.

Antonio should be ahead of them both - and he’s not even a striker and should be no where near good enough for international football. 
 

CL sort of has youth on his side I guess. 

[Wooderson]

J'aime la journée.

[squirrelarmy]

[Ted Dansons Wig]

9 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

LOL. Bitchy.

MOT

[thetime]

6 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

Pretty much like easty when city get stuffed.

[eastynh]

On 9/27/2020 at 6:21 PM, thetime said:

 City looking good....

It was just a slight hiccup. Normal serviced will be resumed after another spending splurge.

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, eastynh said:

It was just a slight hiccup. Normal serviced will be resumed after another spending splurge.

I don't know what the stats are, but City seem to have huge problems coming from behind.

[squirrelarmy]

1 hour ago, pink_triangle said:

I don't know what the stats are, but City seem to have huge problems coming from behind.

They are going to struggle this weekend when they get Koch-blocked. 

[eastynh]

2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

I don't know what the stats are, but City seem to have huge problems coming from behind.

It never used to be a problem. We just look a yard too slow all over the pitch. We are very one paced. They is no dynamism in our squad any more. From having a clutch of world class players, we now only have KDB.

Once the injuries clear up, we should have enough for a 2nd place finish. We look miles away from Liverpool though at present.

[zahidf]

 

[eFestivals]

14 hours ago, eastynh said:

It was just a slight hiccup. Normal serviced will be resumed after another spending splurge.

another £2Bn should do it.

Or maybe it won't. Perhaps Pep can't build a team and isn't the best manager ever after all.

[thetime]

26 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

another £2Bn should do it.

Or maybe it won't. Perhaps Pep can't build a team and isn't the best manager ever after all.

You can't imagine pep picking players up from Hull, Southampton or Newcastle.

[eFestivals]

23 minutes ago, thetime said:

You can't imagine pep picking players up from Hull, Southampton or Newcastle.

Yup.

The Hull and Newc ones are particularly interesting, cos they were players signed from clubs being relegated. My own view on players from relegated clubs is to always swerve them.

I guess that's why I'm not a Prem winning manager.  

(to be fair, Pep has just signed Ake from B'mouth.)

Edited September 30, 2020 by eFestivals

[thetime]

32 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

 

(to be fair, Pep has just signed Ake from B'mouth.)

Good point