Football 2020/2021

[jyoung]

Barkley on loan to Villa. Didn't really see that coming.

Chelsea struggling to sell squad players in this window.

[DareToDibble]

Great signing that is for Villa.

I think most clubs will struggle to sell fringe players this window, especially with so much uncertainty around when we'll be allowed fans back in stadiums etc. Massive revenue stream gone. Most signings have been absolutely necessary with the occasional world class signing. 

[thetime]

16 minutes ago, DareToDibble said:

Most signings have been absolutely necessary with the occasional world class signing. 

On that not, Newcastle have enquired about Phil Jones.

Edited September 30, 2020 by thetime

[kaosmark2]

1 hour ago, thetime said:

On that not, Newcastle have enquired about Phil Jones.

Classic Bruce signing. Bad Man U reserve defender.

[pink_triangle]

2 hours ago, DareToDibble said:

Great signing that is for Villa.

I think most clubs will struggle to sell fringe players this window, especially with so much uncertainty around when we'll be allowed fans back in stadiums etc. Massive revenue stream gone. Most signings have been absolutely necessary with the occasional world class signing. 

I don't know about Barkley, I would be surprised if he is better than average for them, maybe that's good enough.

[DareToDibble]

13 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I don't know about Barkley, I would be surprised if he is better than average for them, maybe that's good enough.

On his day he's great, haven't watched enough of him to know how consistent he is but that couldn't have been easy at Chelsea as he was in and out of the team.

He's certainly better than what they currently have though, Grealish aside.

[pink_triangle]

26 minutes ago, DareToDibble said:

On his day he's great, haven't watched enough of him to know how consistent he is but that couldn't have been easy at Chelsea as he was in and out of the team.

He's certainly better than what they currently have though, Grealish aside.

I would personally take Mcginn over Barkley.

[thetime]

12 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I would personally take Mcginn over Barkley.

Is that because you feel all English footballers are over rated?

[pink_triangle]

12 minutes ago, thetime said:

Is that because you feel all English footballers are over rated?

I would take Grealish over Mcginn, or does he count as Irish!

[thetime]

24 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I would take Grealish over Mcginn, or does he count as Irish!

Villa don't need to choose, they have all 3.

[pink_triangle]

There are lower league clubs being allowed to stream games to fans at the ground in hospitality areas or clubhouses as long as curtains are closed so the fans can’t see the pitch, this is complete madness.

[eastynh]

1 hour ago, pink_triangle said:

I would take Grealish over Mcginn, or does he count as Irish!

They have totally different roles though. Barkley is more more like Grealish than McGinn.

Seems a strange signing really as Villa are crying out for a decent striker.

[pink_triangle]

10 minutes ago, eastynh said:

They have totally different roles though. Barkley is more more like Grealish than McGinn.

Seems a strange signing really as Villa are crying out for a decent striker.

Yes, seems like a signing for the sake of it. As you say striker seems obvious position.

[Hugh Jass]

Something tells me Calvert-Lewin may be getting a call from Gareth this week...

[Ted Dansons Wig]

11 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

Something tells me Calvert-Lewin may be getting a call from Gareth this week...

You think he'll be asking if he's got Bamfords mobile number?

[eastynh]

1 hour ago, Ted Dansons Wig said:

You think he'll be asking if he's got Bamfords mobile number?

Why? Calvert Lewin is far better than Bamford.

Bamford is a journey man striker who is on a decent run. Calvert Lewin has always looked a more than capable striker. What was holding Calvert Lewin back was that he was practically a one man band up front, battling central defenders, for a team that struggled to create chances. Its no coincidence that once Everton added creativity, that Calvert Lewin started bagging.

Now I have only seen Bamford once in the flesh and he actually scored against us. Yet, he looked slow, not particulary great at holding up the play, not a great touch and poor in front of goal. He wandered round shrugging his shoulders and going missing. On the occasions he has been on TV, he has done nothing to change my mind. Where as Calvert Lewin looks up for the challenge, regardless of who the opposition is.

I would play Sterling up front for  England before Bamford.

Edited October 1, 2020 by eastynh

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, eastynh said:

Why? Calvert Lewin is far better than Bamford.

Bamford is a journey man striker who is on a decent run. Calvert Lewin has always looked a more than capable striker. What was holding Calvert Lewin back was that he was practically a one man band up front, battling central defenders, for a team that struggled to create chances. Its no coincidence that once Everton added creativity, that Calvert Lewin started bagging.

Now I have only seen Bamford once in the flesh and he actually scored against us. Yet, he looked slow, not particulary great at holding up the play, not a great touch and poor in front of goal. He wandered round shrugging his shoulders and going missing. On the occasions he has been on TV, he has done nothing to change my mind. Where as Calvert Lewin looks up for the challenge, regardless of who the opposition is.

I would play Sterling up front for  England before Bamford.

Agreed, I think it would be wrong to judge Bamford on a purple patch ignoring what came before, you may end up with Marcus Stewart. My instinct is that CL also has more potential to improve.

[thetime]

39 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

Agreed, I think it would be wrong to judge Bamford on a purple patch ignoring what came before, you may end up with Marcus Stewart. My instinct is that CL also has more potential to improve.

Purple patch? Isn't that what Calvert-lewin is on? Before this season his ratio was  1 in 4. Bamford admittedly at a lower level, is much higher than that. 

Edited October 1, 2020 by thetime

[jyoung]

Let's see who we are talking about at the end of the season.

My guess is it won't be Bamford.

[Comfy Bean]

20 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

I would personally take Mcginn over Barkley.

I think McGinn is a player. Celtic were in for him before Villa but tried to negotiate Hibs down from 3million. 

He was keen to move but Hibs wouldn’t budge on the price and Villa stepped in.

I see his value as way above 3m now so Celtic not for the first time looking daft trying to get players up here on the cheap.

[thetime]

Drogba did well there for chelsea.

[Gnomicide]

UEFA hitting City hard with yet another tough group.

[Ted Dansons Wig]

2 hours ago, jyoung said:

Let's see who we are talking about at the end of the season.

My guess is it won't be Bamford.

[eastynh]

2 minutes ago, thetime said:

Drogba did well there for chelsea.

I was just thinking about Drogba stats after you mentioning Calvert-Lewin' and with Drogba doing the draw.

Now I am not comparing C-L with Drogba in any way, I just want to emphasise that stats can be misleading. 

Now Drogbas stats are very good, but they are not world class. Yet, Drogba was far more than his stats, he was the fulcrum and most important part of that Chelsea team. He scored heavy goals in big big matches and his performances show that stats can be misleading.

Calvert-Lewin' stats may be nothing spectacular as of yet, but your eyes should tell you he is a far better player than Bamford. He is quicker, faster, stronger, more intelligent, better on the ball and a better finisher than Bamford. Upto now, he has been used as a wrecking ball by Everton. Ancelotti has changed that and he now plays in front of goal, rather than chasing lost causes in the channels. 

[zahidf]