U.S. Presidential Election

[FloopFiller]

23 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

so...Iran-Israel war during a US election...how does that play out?

Trump could just say that wouldn't happen if I was president. Again and again.

Bingo 

 

[MilkyJoe]

7 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

Bingo 

 

No way he wrote all that. I mean some of it is his style but it looks off to me.

[MilkyJoe]

 

[kalifire]

Here we go…

[MilkyJoe]

A bit late getting up this morning so I missed the start. This is pretty good stuff though. 

[MilkyJoe]

Vance is the better, more polished speaker and looks the most comfortable as expected even though he seems to be flat out lying at times but Waltz is certainly growing into it and getting better as it moves along.

[MilkyJoe]

DT constantly whining about how biased it is again and seems a little obsessed on Waltz taking notes.

[MilkyJoe]

It was a good debate with a completely different feel. Vance is a good speaker whether he's telling the truth or not and it makes a welcome change from listening to trumps inchoherent rambling. Strong finish by Waltz flat out asking Vance if Trump lost the last election which understandably he couldn't answer.

 

It was actually good to see a some respect given to each other after the hate and vitriol that has become the norm these days. 

[steviewevie]

score draw?

[FloopFiller]

34 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

score draw?

Haven’t seen it all but seems to be the general consensus. Vance a more skilled debater but lied a fair bit, whereas Walz stumbled over himself a bit but generally more honest with his answers.

If anything it just seemed to show how boring these things are without a maniac on one side blurting out utter nonsense.

Edited 2 hours ago by FloopFiller

[MilkyJoe]

41 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

score draw?

That's probably not far off. If I was to pick a winner I would say Vance possibly edged it by the slightest of whiskers but that is because he is a very polished speaker. I would imagine both parties will come away very happy though and I doubt it will move the needle from where it currently is. Waltz was talking very fast at the start and was clearly nervous in the early stages but settled into it as the night went on. He was clearly rattled when questioned on when he was in Hong Kong (he has stated that he was there at time of the Tiananmen Square protests but it turned out he wasn't) but he spoke well on abortion and healthcare issues and held his own on immigration and economy. To be honest it was a very civil debate for the most part. Vance came across well and I can see him running for the top job at some stage. Waltz just comes across as a genuine guy who cares.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by MilkyJoe

[FloopFiller]

Polls seem to be pretty level pegging with Vance having the slight edge in most of them. Pretty much what was expected:

 

[MilkyJoe]

At this stage I think it would be better for everybody if they had him committed after he loses.