steviewevie Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 12 minutes ago, Henrik said: Well that's not a very nice to thing to say. I didn't say anything apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 The Bulwark are speculating that this non-existent “Department of Government Efficiency”, which will actually NOT be a governmental department, is something Trump’s team have come up with to essentially ditch Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, and keep them out of government and away from the Oval Office because a) they’re too weird; and b) Trump disliked the idea that Musk might threaten his messianic persona and take too much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/12/2024 at 9:30 PM, Henrik said: No one has been more vocal in their criticism of Trump than the brilliant Sam Harris. I don't always agree with him, but he absolutely nails what went wrong for the Democrats here... To my ears, he’s also making very reasoned, nuanced comments on transgenderism and it’s relationship to politics and rationale more widely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, kalifire said: To my ears, he’s also making very reasoned, nuanced comments on transgenderism and it’s relationship to politics and rationale more widely. Sounds like you paid attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 19 minutes ago, Henrik said: Sounds like you paid attention. What do you think about his comments on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 6 minutes ago, kalifire said: What do you think about his comments on this? On the transgender issue? I think I agree with him. Trans activism has completely derailed liberal politics. Huge numbers of people are running as fast as they can in the opposite direction. Most people want nothing to do with it. It certainly had a massive impact on the result of this election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SticklinchJoe Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 Fair play to him. Even reasoned comments on this subject can be enough to get you cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 I'd argue that it was a factor, but certainly not the main factor...I think economy/crime/immigration still biggest reasons by far... although apparently there was a they/them/you ad that was very successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloopFiller Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 Not watched the video so apologies if I’m just repeating anything that’s been said, but the Harris campaign barely addressed anything to do with trans issues. In fact, I’d argue republicans have successfully weaponised it against democrats by constantly bringing it up and claiming insane stuff like Harris/whoever is allowing trans surgeries on children in schools etc and forcing democrats to retort, therefor making it seem like it’s one of their major talking points. I know at least one guy (who was up against Ted Cruz) had to make an ad refuting Cruz’ claim that they were gonna allow boys in to girls bathrooms at school etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 Sam Harris is wrong. He says: One lesson I would be quick to draw from this election is that Americans aren't really into seeing biological men punch women in the face at the Olympics and if that sounds like transphobia to you, you're the problem. Americans may not be into it, but they did not actually see that. If this has become a significant factor in this election it is because of the significant misinformation peddled by Trump and in this case Sam Harris. But I don't think it has been significant, compared to the economy and immigration. And indeed, what significance can Olympic boxing in France really have on US elections anyway? And calling a woman a 'biological man' may not actually qualify as 'transphobia' but it is vile and the campaign of hate that it is a part of has real-world negative impacts. Sam Harris is part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FloopFiller Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 Matt Gaetz, who is currently under investigation for sex trafficking and sleeping with minors, is Trump’s Attorney General. The clown show just keeps clowning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 37 minutes ago, FloopFiller said: Matt Gaetz, who is currently under investigation for sex trafficking and sleeping with minors, is Trump’s Attorney General. The clown show just keeps clowning. A lot of people wtfing over this appointment. Means Trump going after his enemies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloopFiller Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 Suppose this is semi-related - The Onion has bought InfoWars. Hilarious bit. Qnuts in the comments are seething: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 Trump is so predictable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 On 11/7/2024 at 10:38 PM, pink_triangle said: The trouble is someone like that may increase the vote in liberal areas they win anyway, but would be toxic in the swing states. she'd be all the same reasons to lose (except black) as harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloopFiller Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 Trump does not give a f**k about any of these positions he’s handing out. It’s purely all loyalists and paid for and he doesn’t give a sh*t about the consequences as he probably won’t even be around to see them. He got off Scott free from his crimes; anything that happens after is just part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted November 15, 2024 Report Share Posted November 15, 2024 seems a sensible appointment to Health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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charlierc Posted November 17, 2024 Report Share Posted November 17, 2024 Just now, steviewevie said: They got RFK Jr in line to eat the junk food he supposedly hates huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 17, 2024 Report Share Posted November 17, 2024 U think zeleneky will be happy for trump to interfere we it takes the p pressure off zelensky to find a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted November 17, 2024 Report Share Posted November 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Neil said: U think zeleneky will be happy for trump to interfere we it takes the p pressure off zelensky to find a solution. possibly, but he might not be happy with the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 18, 2024 Report Share Posted November 18, 2024 On 11/17/2024 at 6:31 PM, steviewevie said: possibly, but he might not be happy with the outcome. if the outcome is peace he'll be pretty happy i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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