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U.S. Presidential Election


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  On 1/22/2025 at 6:26 AM, steviewevie said:

I think keep Twitter but enable others to be embedded like Bluesky...but appreciate that is likely a software thing and can't just be switched on.

I am actually still on Twitter, just about. I don't post there much, but still look on there as there is still a lot of the people I follow posting..various journalists, experts, celebrities, news sites, politicians etc from here and around the world. A lot of people I follow from UK/US have moved to bluesky too, but some are more active there than others.

Twitter is still a great place for latest news and funny stuff related to it, even if it's Musk being a nazi. I just stick to the For You feed and try not engage with some of the blue tick turds...unless I'm a bit drunk and angry (so quite often).

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I mean I keep off For You, feed...and stick to Following feed...

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  On 1/22/2025 at 7:38 AM, steviewevie said:

 

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Great to see them all just have to sit there and listen to this without getting to yell ‘fake news!’ etc back. It’s obviously not gonna make a difference, but it’s massively pissed off the MAGA base so job well done. Very brave of her to do this knowing she’ll become a target now. 

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  On 1/22/2025 at 8:23 AM, FloopFiller said:

Great to see them all just have to sit there and listen to this without getting to yell ‘fake news!’ etc back. It’s obviously not gonna make a difference, but it’s massively pissed off the MAGA base so job well done. Very brave of her to do this knowing she’ll become a target now. 

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and the first attacks on her call for her to be deported.

Born in New Jersey USA and they want to deport her.....................................

 

History shows us that deporting nationals has been done before. I think we can all guess where that was.

""the “expatriation card file” used by the Nazis to document the people they deprived of German citizenship from 1933 on. As a rule, the people concerned were Jews forced into exile or well-known CRITICS OF THE REGIME, such as the Mann family of writers (photo). The Nazis made almost 40,000 people stateless by revoking their citizenship.""

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  On 1/21/2025 at 11:22 PM, kaosmark2 said:

Speaking in both personal capacity and as a moderator, I'd be reluctant to do that without a forum poll. I can only guess at Iggy's thoughts, but he hasn't said anything about getting rid of efestivals twitter things, albeit the last conversation I had with him about it was ~2 months ago.

 

I'll add it to my list of things to bring up next time I have a bit of a conversation with him, and maybe we'll run a poll in future.

 

On the personal capacity, I've quit twitter, and deactivated my account, but I'd be reluctant to imply that people who are still on twitter are inherently nazis/fascist, even though I'm very happy to call both Musk and Trump fascists.

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I think it's an evolving conversation as much as anything given that Twitter's ownership situation has become more volatile and we don't necessarily know if anything comparable will take its place, or at least to the same ubiquity it achieved and to an extent still has. Although I'm finding that less useful since the change of name meaning its more fiddly to embed posts from Twitter on here, to the point where I can't be arsed.

 

The fact the music community is yet to move at the same pace is also a factor. I know Robert Smith of The Cure made a big show of quitting over the weekend, but it's a slower drift for others. I think it's easier for things like sport Reddits, given a lot of football, F1 and other sporting journalists already have BlueSky accounts just to hedge their bets.

 

Certainly, I'm aware it's tricky to say Twitter/X is now exclusively the preserve of the fascist community when there are still people there trying to fight the good fight. But it's certainly becoming a worse place to use in general given it feels buggier and where Elon's finger on the button is making more dubious stuff more visible. I have concerns other social media is also trying to cram similar such bollocks down people's throats, its just that its much more brazen in Elon's private play park.

 

I will say I still have an account but haven't posted in a few weeks. There's a work commitment that means I've had to use it, but I'm tempted to see if BlueSky can take its place when the next time I need it rolls around.

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Bluesky is a great alternative and feels very much like the Twitter of old, complete with a huge lack of constant ads clogging your feed, but its user base hasn’t quite gotten there yet and so far it all seems very ‘left leaning people patting themselves on the back for leaving Twitter’. I hate the right wing shithole Twitter has become, but Bluesky needs to have a bit of the juice/confrontation/opposing views or it just becomes a boring echo chamber. 

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  On 1/22/2025 at 7:43 PM, FloopFiller said:

I hate the right wing shithole Twitter has become, but Bluesky needs to have a bit of the juice/confrontation/opposing views or it just becomes a boring echo chamber. 

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Facebook has the same right wing shithole issue, made even worse by an insane number of ridiculous conspiracy theories. 

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  On 1/22/2025 at 6:48 PM, charlierc said:

Although I'm finding that less useful since the change of name meaning its more fiddly to embed posts from Twitter on here, to the point where I can't be arsed.

 

 

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In case you missed it, Twitter posts embed fine on here now without the need for any jiggery pokery.

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With all the radical executive orders...lots of stuff promised leading up to the election, some of it signed infront of maga crowds...some will get through, but some will be blocked by judges or the legislature..and then Trump can tell the people they are blocking him delivering what they want...we need to bypass the blockers, the deep state, lock them up...and so US moves closer to an Orban style illiberal democracy, and eventually authoritarianism.

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  On 1/26/2025 at 8:31 PM, maelzoid said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78xmp1vkljo

 

On one level this is rather sickening. However, blatant flattery is the best way to play Trump, so I can see why he does it.

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Yeah, agreed. Realpolitik.

Plus...at moment the best chance for some sort of lasting and peaceful solution is for Trump to stay involved and hope that his Arab mates and allies such as us try and get him on board with the importance of a independent Palestinian state and a secure Israel as the ultimate goal...and as you say flattery and maybe even the chance of a nobel peace prize and a legacy could be best way to reach that.

Anyway, that is a very optimistic view, and I think Trump will likely sh*t on Starmer and sh*t on the Palestinians too.

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