U.S. Presidential Election

[SticklinchJoe]

Any Puerto Ricans here? 

[FloopFiller]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I have read a lot about Democrat team very downbeat and worried about their chances, and Trump's lot being very optimistic...so either both sides are playing psychological games, or their internal polling are telling them something.

That just lines up with how both sides always act - Democrats erring on the side of caution to the point of self sabotage and Republicans being vocally overly confident so that if things don’t go their way they can claim cheating. 
 

Also, not sure exactly where you get your info from but there’s been a huge disinformation campaign from the right alluding to Democrats being in panic mode and it mostly seems like utter bullshit. From what I’ve seen from people working on Kamala’s campaign, they’re mostly thinking they’ve got the votes where it matters, especially as early voting results are coming in. Those Kansas results posted earlier are a good indication that Trump is losing votes, not gaining. 

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, FloopFiller said:

That just lines up with how both sides always act - Democrats erring on the side of caution to the point of self sabotage and Republicans being vocally overly confident so that if things don’t go their way they can claim cheating. 
 

Also, not sure exactly where you get your info from but there’s been a huge disinformation campaign from the right alluding to Democrats being in panic mode and it mostly seems like utter bullshit. From what I’ve seen from people working on Kamala’s campaign, they’re mostly thinking they’ve got the votes where it matters, especially as early voting results are coming in. Those Kansas results posted earlier are a good indication that Trump is losing votes, not gaining. 

Tuesday briefing: Some Democrats are grimly convinced that Trump is going to win. What does the evidence show? | Donald Trump | The Guardian

[FloopFiller]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Tuesday briefing: Some Democrats are grimly convinced that Trump is going to win. What does the evidence show? | Donald Trump | The Guardian

So yeah, Democrats being overly cautious as per usual, but I get it - if Trump wins, there’s a whole world of pain that’s gonna be inflicted on his enemies and the people of America. It’s really terrifying stuff. But if Kamala wins, what do conservatives really stand to lose? Other than their totally made up problems of wokeness taking over or it being the end of America, there really isn’t anything real there, so it makes sense that Dems are the ones worrying because they’ve realistically got the most to lose.

 

But like I’ve also said, it’s far more exciting and lucrative for the media to play this out as an equal race. Maybe that’ll prove to be true

come election night/week, but all common sense at this point + the way Trump is already laying the groundwork for it being a rigged election would say he’s gonna lose.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, FloopFiller said:

So yeah, Democrats being overly cautious as per usual, but I get it - if Trump wins, there’s a whole world of pain that’s gonna be inflicted on his enemies and the people of America. It’s really terrifying stuff. But if Kamala wins, what do conservatives really stand to lose? Other than their totally made up problems of wokeness taking over or it being the end of America, there really isn’t anything real there, so it makes sense that Dems are the ones worrying because they’ve realistically got the most to lose.

 

But like I’ve also said, it’s far more exciting and lucrative for the media to play this out as an equal race. Maybe that’ll prove to be true

come election night/week, but all common sense at this point + the way Trump is already laying the groundwork for it being a rigged election would say he’s gonna lose.

ok...but the main polling companies have their reputations to worry about...so they're not going to play along with the whole media narrative or what Republican's might want it to look like. So, polling says it's close, within margin of error nationally, and in swing states...and that is probably where we are. And over recent weeks Trump has closed the gap nationally after Harris' brat summer moment ended, and if they're evens nationally I reckon that is bad news for Harris.

[FloopFiller]

We’ll see. In a weeks time I could totally eat sh*t on this as Trump heads for a decisive victory, but I just think pollsters are being overly cautious this time and aren’t willing to give either side a proper lead. Far easier to come back from ‘we had them level pegging but didn’t quite account x, y, z’ than ‘we gave Trump the lead and he’s just been pummelled… so we f**ked that up’. 

[kalifire]

 

[FloopFiller]

Nothing convinces me more that he knows he’s losing than him continuing to bemoan Biden stepping aside and Kamala stepping in. Genuinely hilarious him acting like he gives a f**k about Biden no longer being his opponent other than the fact he thought he had it in the bag and then in one fell swoop that all changed:

 

 

[steviewevie]

Lewis Goodall fast becoming a national treasure

 

[steviewevie]

[sime]

This new video is a really good analysis by the always trustworthy MeidasTouch Network of the true data driving the polls. It gives a realistic look at what's going on outside of mainstream media and gives me hope for democracy.

 

 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Was listening to Rest Is Politics podcast this morning and they're pretty confident that Harris will win, especially Rory Stewart. They think it's the women vote that will win it for Harris.

[steviewevie]

Biden is a liability, he needs to shut the f**k up. This is like Clinton's deplorables..and how you lose an election.

 

[1986]

Agreed that this is the kind of thing the Repub’s will leap on and dent the Dem’s momentum. Just another example of this nightmare we’re living in that calling out racism for what it is, is seen as worse than the racism itself.

[steviewevie]

My brother who lives in US says he's going to vote Green because there's no difference between Harris and Trump. This is the problem, there are a lot of stupid people over there.

[FloopFiller]

Worst thing about the Biden comment is that is steals focus away from the MSG rally, but realistically I don’t think it’s gonna damage Harris at all, and I’m sure Trump will say something in the next 24 hours that will shift the focus right back on to him.

[FloopFiller]

But yeah, maybe let’s keep Biden away from people and cameras for the next week given his tendency for gaffes like this 😅

[kalifire]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Biden is a liability, he needs to shut the f**k up. This is like Clinton's deplorables..and how you lose an election.

 

Luckily the wider context is an even bigger faux pas at Trump’s MSG rally, so I think damage will be limited. 

[kalifire]

Is anyone prepared to call it at this point?

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, kalifire said:

Is anyone prepared to call it at this point?

Trump landslide.

[Crazyfool01]

countering the negativity above  .... Harris 

[steviewevie]

Actually I change my mind every 5 minutes. Basically if polls are right it's too close to call...

[FloopFiller]

Just now, Crazyfool01 said:

countering the negativity above  .... Harris 

Yup, Harris for me. Tempted to even say it won’t be particularly close either, but I’ll try and hold off from being too smugly optimistic. These aren’t the words or actions of a man who thinks he’s winning:

 

 

[maelzoid]

5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Biden is a liability, he needs to shut the f**k up. This is like Clinton's deplorables..and how you lose an election.

 

I wish he hadn't said it. He could have made the point by saying "the only garbage I see are those people laughing and clapping at this..." would have been way smarter.

That said, this will not nudge the needle one bit. Nobody is going to switch from Harris to Trump based on this remark. If anything, the Trumpers complaining are merely drawing more attention to the original comment.