U.S. Presidential Election

[parsonjack]

2 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Cheers mate. Had 3 stents, not the 1 I was expecting, so feel a bit battered and bruised, but they let me home after 4 hours, so I assume it went ok 🙂

Wow that's a result!  Good to hear you're back home....take it easy now 👍

[Punksnotdead]

1 minute ago, parsonjack said:

Wow that's a result!  Good to hear you're back home....take it easy now 👍

Cheers buddy 🙂

[zahidf]

the only problems with trump's suit, according to the judge, is that it was based on hearsay, brought the wrong party to court, couldn't give names of any of the ppl or locations they said broke the law and the relief sought is unavailable because the counting is over.

 

From Michigan 

[squirrelarmy]

4 minutes ago, zahidf said:

the only problems with trump's suit, according to the judge, is that it was based on hearsay, brought the wrong party to court, couldn't give names of any of the ppl or locations they said broke the law and the relief sought is unavailable because the counting is over.

 

From Michigan 

Did they make it to the right courthouse?

[jparx]

I don’t know much about this Rick Santorum chap, but for a Republican he seems like a decent sport. 

[Copperface]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

the only problems with trump's suit, according to the judge, is that it was based on hearsay, brought the wrong party to court, couldn't give names of any of the ppl or locations they said broke the law and the relief sought is unavailable because the counting is over.

 

From Michigan 

Was Farage their advocate?

[Crazyfool01]

BYE BYE TRUMP trending on twitter ...

 

[philipsteak]

8 minutes ago, zahidf said:

the only problems with trump's suit, according to the judge, is that it was based on hearsay, brought the wrong party to court, couldn't give names of any of the ppl or locations they said broke the law and the relief sought is unavailable because the counting is over.

 

From Michigan 

Surely they know that unless they get the dodgiest judge ever, these are all just going to be dismissed. It's all about sowing doubt in his supporters. It's the "establishment" bringing them down. 

[Mr.Tease]

21 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Sky News has been excellent through this, really good coverage. 

Sky news is largely better than bbc despite having a fraction of the budget. BBC seems like it actively tries to keep you as uninformed as possible AND isn't even entertaining- it's terrible these days, has truly been hollowed out over the years. 

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

BYE BYE TRUMP trending on twitter ...

 

Donald the president lost the vote, he'll say goodbye to the White House, off he'll go to jail for a while, Trump, Trump, Trump.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

Sky news is largely better than bbc despite having a fraction of the budget. BBC seems like it actively tries to keep you as uninformed as possible AND isn't even entertaining- it's terrible these days, has truly been hollowed out over the years. 

I really like the Sky News presenters and all the politics people they have on too. They have great tech to explain things which is a big plus for me. 

[squirrelarmy]

Just now, Ozanne said:

I really like the Sky News presenters and all the politics people they have on too. They have great tech to explain things which is a big plus for me. 

Have you been on the 270towin site? You can play with a slightly scaled down version of the same map to make guesses of the final result

[Mr.Tease]

9 minutes ago, jparx said:

I don’t know much about this Rick Santorum chap, but for a Republican he seems like a decent sport. 

Don't be fooled!

10 Completely Vile Things Rick Santorum Has Said

Former Republican senator and known right-wing extremist Rick Santorum is officially running for president again, and this time around he’s trying to be a voice for America’s “working families.” That might sound downright wholesome to someone who doesn’t know what he actually believes. Here are some of the White House hopeful’s most revealing comments from over the years:

1. On same-sex marriage, 2004: “This is an issue just like 9/11. We didn’t decide we wanted to fight the war on terrorism because we wanted to. It was brought to us. And if not now, when? When the supreme courts in all the other states have succumbed to the Massachusetts version of the law?”

2. On sex between gay people, 2003: “If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.”

3. On birth control and having sex for pleasure, 2011: “One of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about before is I think the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea. Many in the Christian faith have said, ‘Well, that’s OK. Contraception’s OK.’

It’s not OK because it’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. They’re supposed to be within marriage, they are supposed to be for purposes that are, yes, conjugal, but. . .also procreative. That’s the perfect way that a sexual union should happen. We take any part of that out, we diminish the act. And if you can take one part out that’s not for purposes of procreation, that’s not one of the reasons, then you diminish this very special bond between men and women, so why can’t you take other parts of that out? And all of a sudden, it becomes deconstructed to the point where it’s simply pleasure. . .This is special, and it needs to be seen as special.”

 

4. On how abortion is harming Social Security, 2011: “The social security system in my opinion is a flawed design, period. But, having said that, the design would work a lot better if we had stable demographic trends. . . .The reason social security is in big trouble is we don’t have enough workers to support the retirees. Well, a third of all the young people in America are not in America today because of abortion, because one in three pregnancies end in abortion.”

 

5. On Obamacare, 2011: “Almost 60,000 average Americans had the courage to go out and charge those beaches on Normandy, to drop out of airplanes who knows where, and take on the battle for freedom. Average Americans, the very Americans that our government now, and this president, does not trust to make a decision on your health care plan. Those Americans risked everything so they could make that decision on their health care plan.”

6. On Planned Parenthood, 2011: “I can’t imagine any other organization with its roots as poisonous as the roots of Planned Parenthood getting federal funding of any kind. This is an organization that was founded on the eugenics movement, founded on racism. It’s origins are horrific. You can say well, it’s not that anymore. It’s not far from where it was in my opinion in its activities and its motivations.”

7. On public assistance, 2012: “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families.”

8. On Americans’ right to privacy, 2003: “The undermining of the fabric of our society all comes from this right to privacy that doesn’t exist in the U.S. Constitution. This right was created in Griswold — the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we’re just extending it out. Whether it’s polygamy or sodomy, all of those things are antithetical to a stable, traditional family. The idea of the ‘right to privacy’ is that the state doesn’t have rights to limit individuals’ passions. I disagree with that. There are consequences to letting people live out whatever passions they desire. And we’re seeing it in our society.”

9. On the existence of Palestinians, 2011: “If they want to negotiate with Israelis, and all the people who live in the West Bank are Israelis, they’re not Palestinians. There is no ‘Palestinian.’ This is Israeli land.”

10. On pregnancies conceived through rape, 2011: “You know, the U.S. Supreme Court on a recent case said that a man who committed rape could not be killed, could not be subject to the death penalty, yet the child conceived as a result of that rape could be. That to me sounds like a country that doesn’t have its morals correct.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/10-completely-vile-things-rick-santorum-has-said-169555/

[Mr.Tease]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I really like the Sky News presenters and all the politics people they have on too. They have great tech to explain things which is a big plus for me. 

I agree, better presenters, more informative, better range of guests and more entertaining. Don't know what the bbc are trying to do these days but they need a big rethink

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Mr.Tease said:

Don't know what the bbc are trying to do these days

Whatever Dom Cumface wants them to do. 

[Matt42]

The BBC coverage has been awful. It seems like they are 3 / 4 hours behind everything.

[squirrelarmy]

3 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

The BBC coverage has been awful. It seems like they are 3 / 4 hours behind everything.

Just been chatting to a mate, she’s not happy because she thinks Trump is going to win. She didn’t know that it’s going to be completely the opposite 

[Matt42]

25 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

BYE BYE TRUMP trending on twitter ...

 

I really like this democrat ticket. I think Biden whilst being old has experience of being in the White House, Kamala Harris is a mid career politician with a lot of power. Also, this is a democrat party which won’t strangle or exhaust the more idealistic members like AOC.

It seems like a broadchurch in the best way. I do think they can really help the country move forward in this pandemic.

Could cry honestly. I didn’t think America would do it. I thought trump was too strong to beat. I just hope it’s true that bright days are ahead.

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

I really like this democrat ticket. I think Biden whilst being old has experience of being in the White House, Kamala Harris is a mid career politician with a lot of power. Also, this is a democrat party which won’t strangle or exhaust the more idealistic members like AOC.

It seems like a broadchurch in the best way. I do think they can really help the country move forward in this pandemic.

Could cry honestly. I didn’t think America would do it. I thought trump was too strong to beat. I just hope it’s true that bright days are ahead.

To help  things get yourself a pint to celebrate ... I won’t be claiming mine in June despite the impending fingers crossed Biden win .... your gut was more accurate than I expected ... perhaps you should do some Matt gut polling ...  ... 

[Matt42]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

To help  things get yourself a pint to celebrate ... I won’t be claiming mine in June despite the impending fingers crossed Biden win .... your gut was more accurate than I expected ... perhaps you should do some Matt gut polling ...  ... 

haha I will still provide the pint

[jparx]

These updates from the states are hilarious. One of the counties in Georgia printed the ballots off the wrong size so they wouldn’t work with the scanner...

It’s alright guys, it’s only the whole world that’s watching.

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

haha I will still provide the pint

 

1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

things get yourself a pint to celebrate

If Biden wins by over 300 I shall buy Arthur the Crow a pint if they are at Glasto next year. 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

haha I will still provide the pint

Can you just tell me that Glastonbury is definately not happening first  

[jparx]

CNN just went through the outstanding votes in Georgia. It’s looking great for Biden there. Most of the outstanding votes are in blue counties. I think the data genuinely looks like Biden wins the state. Not wishful thinking, just doing potential maths. Crazy stuff.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, jparx said:

CNN just went through the outstanding votes in Georgia. It’s looking great for Biden there. Most of the outstanding votes are in blue counties. I think the data genuinely looks like Biden wins the state. Not wishful thinking, just doing potential maths. Crazy stuff.

I think it looks good too, you can never be sure but all the data points to it.