LAWKS! It’s the Next Announcement Thread 2022!

[the wonderwhy]

If Flo ain't a headliner then neither are The Strokes. (I think they both are.) 

[fightoffyour]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

I’m not letting go of the Macca/Kendrick dream until it’s over.

That dream can't even begin until the Taylor one is over

[kalifire]

31 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

The other way of looking at this is that we are giving way too much credence to what Noel Gallagher thinks.

Chances are he's been given his fee and agreed his slot and who goes on afterwards has fuck all to do with him.

This. Noel's a big name but if he tried to dictate who the headliner should be that follows him, I'm sure the booking team have plenty of other acts who'd love to sub instead.

[Florian Saucer Attack]

9 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

I know the strokes cost £500k (my friend is an organiser of a smaller festival but couldn’t book them due to the large fee). If that’s too much for Glastonbury then that will be why the strokes won’t play as they won’t budge from that fee from what I’ve been told

There we go, for the second time we have now essentially confirmed McCartney is playing

[nikkic]

1 hour ago, Tartan_Glasto said:

Haim into Noel would be very odd. Can't imagine they have much of an overlap of fans. 

There doesn't need to be an overlap of fans though. 

[Florian Saucer Attack]

6 minutes ago, kalifire said:

This. Noel's a big name but if he tried to dictate who the headliner should be that follows him, I'm sure the booking team have plenty of other acts who'd love to sub instead.

this is assuming the article that says Noel is subbing is correct 

[Hugh Jass]

1 minute ago, Ddiamondd said:

Would Dua playing at same time as Strokes/Flo on Pylmid be the first time that the Other headliner has a genuine claim to be larger?

Basement Jaxx v Ian Brown in 2005?

[Florian Saucer Attack]

3 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

Would Dua playing at same time as Strokes/Flo on Pylmid be the first time that the Other headliner has a genuine claim to be larger?

That's a good point. It adds credence to the idea that McCartney is playing

[dentalplan]

5 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

Would Dua playing at same time as Strokes/Flo on Pylmid be the first time that the Other headliner has a genuine claim to be larger?

What makes you think she’d be a massive draw? I think she’d do well as a Pyramid headliner but that’s because people go see any Pyramid headliner. Her slow arena sales don’t seem to indicate she’s that massive a live draw yet.

Edited February 3, 2022 by dentalplan

[shivroy]

1 minute ago, dentalplan said:

What makes you think she’d be a massive draw? I think she’d do well as a Pyramid headliner but that’s because people go see any Pyramid headliner. Her slow arena sales don’t seem to indicate she’s that massive a live draw yet.

I think all of the jokes about her being a shit dancer don't help her live sales. I've seen her a couple of times and she really lacks charisma but her dancing has improved quite a bit? Idk

[dentalplan]

1 minute ago, Ddiamondd said:

Ah, didn't say she's a massive draw though – I don't think Dua would necessarily draw a bigger crowd on the Other than (say) Stronks on the main. The natural Pyramid sprawl means you have a baked-in advantage.

I'd guess Dua headlining the Pyramid would whomp Strokes/Flo for crowd size, but that's a different question.

In terms of who is the larger act in 2022 by all those fancy pants modern metrics, it's unquestionably Dua.

Okay, fair enough.

Just now, shivroy said:

I think all of the jokes about her being a shit dancer don't help her live sales. I've seen her a couple of times and she really lacks charisma but her dancing has improved quite a bit? Idk

I missed those jokes. I think I’d be more inclined to see her with the promise of some Elaine dancing.

[shivroy]

I love florence and think she's a tried and tested live act (she's headlined basically every major music festival in mainland Europe over the last few years, sold out multiple large arena tours, headlined two BSTs etc)...but I do think Dua would have a larger crowd. 

 

Dua would unquestionably have a larger crowd than the strokes too tho. Also agreed with the other poster that if strokes are headline material so are Florence. Like unquestionably, especially in the UK. 

[shivroy]

1 minute ago, dentalplan said:

I missed those jokes. I think I’d be more inclined to see her with the promise of some Elaine dancing.

My favourite was the edit of her on top of a pencil sharpener. 

[dentalplan]

Dua would have a larger Pyramid crowd than Kendrick too I reckon, so it’s not something that really factors.

[Hugh Jass]

9 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

Ooh, shout. Fine margins but I reckon Basement Jaxx were bigger at the time (not than the Roses, obviously). Armful of mega-hits, they never seemed to be off the radio or chats from 1999 to 2004-ish.

Brown was fairly big as a solo artist at that point but had literally just started performing Roses stuff live again at that point, which was a huge deal.

Definitely a close one. I was on the barrier for Brown that night.

[the wonderwhy]

The thing is there are probably quite a few instances in recent history where an Other stage headliner has looked, on paper, to be in for a larger than average size crowd and one to rival the respective pyramid headliner but it ultimately never plays out like that because there are so many other things to go and do. 

If you put Bicep up against The Strokes and Dua Lipa they'd get a big crowd too and probably take a chunk of people away from Dua. Stick Beach House on the Park and then someone like Manic Street Preachers in the JPT and that's just a normal Glastonbury night isn't it? 

[shivroy]

2 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Dua would have a larger Pyramid crowd than Kendrick too I reckon, so it’s not something that really factors.

Yeah agreed.

Also I don't see Emily making it Dua vs Florence tbh. I'm truly beginning to wonder if it's Billie/Dua/Florence. Would be a big statement to have three women. (if I was Dua I'd rather wait until I had a new album to headline tho, she's been pushing FN since 2019!)

[shivroy]

Just now, Ddiamondd said:

When you go back, it's very thin pickings for any occasion where the Other headliner would be equal-to or perhaps even a little above the Pyramid headliner in size.

You could just about have argued Stormzy and Tame Impala in 2018 when the booking was made, but not by the time the fest came around.

In 2008, Massive Attack and Jay-Z weren't far off as a draw (in the UK).

Coldplay/Garbage and Stereophonics/Orbital in 2002 are an interesting ones. But that's a result of a notably weak headline pool.

@Hugh Jass, I'm willing to give you Ian Brown on penalties, but he was playing against a sub-bench option so it's not a moral victory.

Tame vs Stormzy should've been fairly equal, esp given that tame headline huge festivals. The fact that they weren't proves other posters point a bit, ppl go see the headliner bc they're the headliner and more likely to do a more special show. 

[gooner1990]

5 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Brown was fairly big as a solo artist at that point but had literally just started performing Roses stuff live again at that point, which was a huge deal.

Definitely a close one. I was on the barrier for Brown that night.

We were to the left of the sound/light desk in the middle for Ian Brown that night as you looked towards the stage.... it was pretty full.

[shivroy]

Oh also, not that it rly matters but Noel has said that he likes Florence. He's dedicated songs to her live before and he says her third album is one of his wife's favourites. He's played before her at other festivals

[Hugh Jass]

8 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

 

@Hugh Jass, I'm willing to give you Ian Brown on penalties, but he was playing against a sub-bench option so it's not a moral victory.

All victories are moral victories.

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

All victories are moral victories.

unless were talking about the tory party.

[Hugh Jass]

1 minute ago, Ddiamondd said:

[Mattymooz]

I still don't really understand why people think Dua is going to be back on the other (or subbing?!?) when she was in talks to headline 2021...

[Mouseboy11]

35 minutes ago, Ddiamondd said:

It's definitely the closest one. Tame could have topped the bill in 2019. I mean, they headlined that other shite flag-waving jamboree over in the new world.

Oh boy now you’ve done it!