henry bear Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 TRNSMT's director, Geoff Ellis in 2019: "It will be a while until there's a 50/50 balance. That's definitely several years ahead for any major festival to achieve because there's far, far less female artists. "We need to get more females picking up guitars, forming bands, playing in bands". Yeah, it's weird. There aren't any women playing indie rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCK Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, henry bear said: TRNSMT's director, Geoff Ellis in 2019: "It will be a while until there's a 50/50 balance. That's definitely several years ahead for any major festival to achieve because there's far, far less female artists. "We need to get more females picking up guitars, forming bands, playing in bands". Yeah, it's weird. There aren't any women playing indie rock. Maybe there are a lot, but if so the music press doesn't promote them well. I mean, if you think about it, what sort of music do female artists that are critical darlings perform? Mostly pop. Think of big name headline sized female acts, they're your Taylor Swifts, Dua Lipas, Beyonces, Ariana Grandes, Billie Eilishes, etc. The music press likes to run with this idea that rock music is now uncool because something something white men something and pop is more credible and has more artistic merit but they could easily shine a light on the non-white and/or non-male guitar acts. Skating Polly are easily better than the above named acts but barely anyone has heard of them. So yeah, it's rather disingenuous to insinuate festival promoters are sexist for not booking female headliners for a festival that caters to a specific genre in which female artists just aren't given a lot of coverage by the press, and therefore less mainstream success than their male counterparts. They can either work with what they've got, or do what R&L did and move away from rock for the sake of gender balance. Edited October 28, 2022 by VCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughbloke Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 14 hours ago, snoochie1981 said: Whole heartedly believe he is an other stage headliner/closer. He could very well play west holts or park but he’s big enough for other for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, roughbloke said: Whole heartedly believe he is an other stage headliner/closer. He could very well play west holts or park but he’s big enough for other for sure. Oh how you have us all talking. Do you happen to be on Twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughbloke Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, sisco said: Oh how you have us all talking. Do you happen to be on Twitter? I’d like to caveat I have heard nothing about him playing/stage; just what I think should happen. He could have sold out 6/7 Brixton’s in December - there just wasn’t any space to do so. what's happening on twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, roughbloke said: what's happening on twitter? Some bloke called Elon has turned up and upset everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, roughbloke said: Whole heartedly believe he is an other stage headliner/closer. He could very well play west holts or park but he’s big enough for other for sure. No way imo You have to think that Bicep who headlined every festival under the sun last year did West Holts, if Bicep are doing WH Fred surely is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewayiam Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, sisco said: I looked how far down The Enemy are for their Neighbourhood Weekender slot. I think they are playing lower slots to do as many as possible. They are my hunch to open the Other stage Friday lunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, thewayiam said: I looked how far down The Enemy are for their Neighbourhood Weekender slot. I think they are playing lower slots to do as many as possible. They are my hunch to open the Other stage Friday lunch Mate they were brilliant at Kentish Town. I’d guess they’ll do the Truck, Tramlines, Victorious route. We’ll hope they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 No way The Enemy are/were ever big enough for that Other opener slot. That slot tends to get old esteemed acts who were massive in their day and have tapered off a bit since. The Enemy were a little bit big once upon a time when any slightly indie guitar act could make the cover of NME and then swiftly nosedived in to obscurity with their material going with them. They’d be lucky to get a Avalon slot these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 You're forgetting all the big tunes they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said: You're forgetting all the big tunes they have. The one that should’ve gotten them sued for ripping off Common People? Or the one from the same album that should’ve gotten them sued for ripping off London Calling? The list is endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewayiam Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, FloorFiller said: No way The Enemy are/were ever big enough for that Other opener slot. That slot tends to get old esteemed acts who were massive in their day and have tapered off a bit since. The Enemy were a little bit big once upon a time when any slightly indie guitar act could make the cover of NME and then swiftly nosedived in to obscurity with their material going with them. They’d be lucky to get a Avalon slot these days. Beady Eye opened the other. You're way underplaying them. As if they are the only band to ever nick a trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 35 minutes ago, thewayiam said: Beady Eye opened the other. You're way underplaying them. As if they are the only band to ever nick a trick. Please refer to writing in blue To be fair theres only two oasis songs but a gallaghers a gallagher. I hope Franz do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Beady Eye notoriously went down like a dead dog on a hot day. So a bit better than The Libertines this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughbloke Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 10:16 AM, gfa said: No way imo You have to think that Bicep who headlined every festival under the sun last year did West Holts, if Bicep are doing WH Fred surely is. Would be very happy for him to play wherever to be honest but I do feel like Fred again is more popular within the mainstream right now, even doing that v.popular zane Lowe interview will be at whatever stage he ends up playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, roughbloke said: Would be very happy for him to play wherever to be honest but I do feel like Fred again is more popular within the mainstream right now, even doing that v.popular zane Lowe interview will be at whatever stage he ends up playing. I agree but he doesn't have the heaps of headline experience that Bicep have. I think WH would be perfect - other is just an unnecessary push and theres so many other acts who seem to be slotting into place for that slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Just heard LCD Soundsystem are playing Dublin in August, Yeah Yeah Yeahs supporting. Haven’t been following this thread, so not sure if either have been mentioned previously, but tossing them into the mix! (Might be too late in the summer for Glasto, or the Dublin gig could be the tail end of a European run, don’t have any more info than a date in Kilmainham in August!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said: Just heard LCD Soundsystem are playing Dublin in August, Yeah Yeah Yeahs supporting. Haven’t been following this thread, so not sure if either have been mentioned previously, but tossing them into the mix! (Might be too late in the summer for Glasto, or the Dublin gig could be the tail end of a European run, don’t have any more info than a date in Kilmainham in August!). That'd place them for an APE return maybe... is it announced or a rumour you heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, zahidf said: That'd place them for an APE return maybe... is it announced or a rumour you heard? Not announced yet, mate does work for Pod/Aiken festivals and events, has been told it will be announced soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahidf Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said: Not announced yet, mate does work for Pod/Aiken festivals and events, has been told it will be announced soon. Ok cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Probably means they will be at that Connect festival too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hugh Jass II Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, sisco said: It’s mad how the little stuff I’d genuinely be interested in seeing clashes. Who thought it would be a good idea to put the two seminal Sheffield bands up against each other??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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