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[Crazyfool01]

8 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

Arguing for a set of guidelines or against? 😂

On the fence a bit … people will apply them in their own way … but I think the forum does have guidelines somewhere, they aren’t just very easily found 

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

On the fence a bit … people will apply them in their own way … but I think the forum does have guidelines somewhere, they aren’t just very easily found 

Don't think it's possible to have cover all guidlines, while still allowing discussion of all subjects. 

[steviewevie]

Immigration bill passed 312 to 250. 

Illegal Migration Bill: Second Reading - Commons' votes in Parliament - UK Parliament

That Ian Dunt thread is amazing, I know he annoys some people but those parliamentary twitter threads should win a nobel prize.

[steviewevie]

I don't know about banning people on here, obviously there has to be a limit to what people can say, I have crossed it myself and got in trouble. But, with Baz Fish you just need to compare his nasty spiteful posts after his ban with Ozanne's gracious, apologetic posts after he came back from a ban to see what a turd the bloke is. Just glad we have the ignore button otherwise I'd be banned myself for calling him rude words.

Edited March 14, 2023 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

AUKUS Tough Guys.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

I don't know about banning people on here, obviously there has to be a limit to what people can say, I have crossed it myself and got in trouble. But, with Baz Fish you just need to compare his nasty spiteful posts after his ban with Ozanne's gracious, apologetic posts after he came back from a ban to see what a turd the bloke is. Just glad we have the ignore button otherwise I'd be banned myself for calling him rude words.

Thanks fella, I made mistakes and took my punishment as a result. 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

AUKUS Tough Guys.

 

they'd be tougher spending that money on something useful rather than blowing things up.

[Neil]

20 hours ago, Neil said:

i'm having my day filmed tomorrow, by some students, for a promo for the charity I'm involved with.(thankfully I've had a haircut and beard trim, so i don't look too shocking!).

they've just asked if they can film me on an extra day this week, but I'm too busy to fit them in.

waiting for these students.

[Justiceforcedave]

So for all her horror at the inhumanity of it all, Caroline Nokes managed to… not vote.

God forbid she actually vote against the bill.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Justiceforcedave said:

So for all her horror at the inhumanity of it all, Caroline Nokes managed to… not vote.

God forbid she actually vote against the bill.

yeah, zero tories voted against the bill.

[cellar]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I don't know about banning people on here, obviously there has to be a limit to what people can say, I have crossed it myself and got in trouble. But, with Baz Fish you just need to compare his nasty spiteful posts after his ban with Ozanne's gracious, apologetic posts after he came back from a ban to see what a turd the bloke is. Just glad we have the ignore button otherwise I'd be banned myself for calling him rude words.

I think "celebrating homophobia" should be a permanent ban really. 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

they'd be tougher spending that money on something useful rather than blowing things up.

Yeah but they got to get ready for war with China in 2027.

[lost]

43 minutes ago, cellar said:

I think "celebrating homophobia" should be a permanent ban really. 

The issue I guess is how you define it. In Scotlands case they went from having a rapist who's ex-wife said he's never mentioned feeling like he's the wrong gender being but in a women's prison to a week later due to the backlash a fully transitioned trans women convicted of dangerous driving is now put in a mans prison.

Neither solution seems great to me and suggests we still don't have a consensus on this sort of stuff.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, lost said:

The issue I guess is how you define it. In Scotlands case they went from having a rapist who's ex-wife said he's never mentioned feeling like he's the wrong gender being but in a women's prison to a week later due to the backlash a fully transitioned trans women convicted of dangerous driving is now put in a mans prison.

Neither solution seems great to me and suggests we still don't have a consensus on this sort of stuff.

What's that got to do with celebrating homophobia?

[lost]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

What's that got to do with celebrating homophobia?

I thought it was celebrating transphobia as well? As I said its how you define it. For me homophobia/transphobia is hating a group where it may spill over into violence against that group.

Some describe straight guys who are not into pensises as transphobes. As I said the consensus on this is constantly shifting. To prove a point look where the spectator was on this subject only 4 years ago:

 

 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, lost said:

I thought it was celebrating transphobia as well? As I said its how you define it. For me homophobia/transphobia is hating a group where it may spill over into violence against that group.

Some describe straight guys who are not into pensises as transphobes. As I said the consensus on this is constantly shifting. To prove a point look where the spectator was on this subject only 4 years ago:

 

 

Ok. But still, it's the homophobia bit that people are questioning. I have no idea what was said, but I don't think we need it to lead into a trans debate. 

[cellar]

Also it's the "celebrating" bit that seems particularly concerning. 

For what it's worth, I don't think having a debate around any of the things you've mentioned @lost qualifies as transphobia, though I haven't read any of the posts so maybe the language used, was.

[lost]

33 minutes ago, cellar said:

Also it's the "celebrating" bit that seems particularly concerning. 

For what it's worth, I don't think having a debate around any of the things you've mentioned @lost qualifies as transphobia, though I haven't read any of the posts so maybe the language used, was.

I'm guessing as its the only debate I noticed. I think the religious Scottish lady is against gay marriage too.

I don't go in the Glastonbury forum so it could of happened there I guess and I could be completely wrong?

[Neil]

what we need is more of the richer peeps being able to squirrel away money tax free!

</tomorrow's budget >

[steviewevie]

[squirrelarmy]

32 minutes ago, Neil said:

what we need is more of the richer peeps being able to squirrel away money tax free!

</tomorrow's budget >

Richer people are welcome to send me money tax free. 

[zahidf]

Boris Johnson’s Partygate hearing is on 22nd, from 2pm. It will be televised.

Popcorn is advised.

[steviewevie]

hence...STOP THE FUCKING BOATS!

[steviewevie]

if you read that thread...tories polling badly, Sunak's recent successes are cutting through...and if he keeps doing well which is possible as he isn't lazy or crazy like the previous two PMs, and also if economy starts improving as expected and they do a sexy tax give away next spring then there could still be a tory win in 2024...wouldn't that be lovely?

[steviewevie]

basically...need some dirt on sunak.