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[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

maybe in short term...I think in long term they might come to regret it.

In what way? If he wins, he will vote the same way as he does now. I don’t see anything having really changed.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

In what way? If he wins, he will vote the same way as he does now. I don’t see anything having really changed.

When labour inevitably start losing centre/swing votes back to Tories they won't have the left to make the difference...and the factional stuff will kick in again. Many on left won't forget or forgive starmer for this.

[steviewevie]

Corbyn could just be a backbencher doing what he's done for 40 odd years...and he's probably retiring soon anyway. Why fuck off a load of people just to make a point. Just seems a bit shit to me, and I am no Corbyn fan.

 

Edited March 27, 2023 by steviewevie

[Neil]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Corbyn could just be a backbencher doing what he's done for 40 odd years..

 

undermining the labour party, he's carrying on with the same path.

[Neil]

17 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 they won't have the left to make the difference..

so where are they going then...????

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

so where are they going then...????

They need a broad range of support, they are sacrificing left to attract centre, but much more than Blair ever did, and one day they may need their support again.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

They need a broad range of support, they are sacrificing left to attract centre, but much more than Blair ever did, and one day they may need their support again.

its a myth that labour are losing the votes of the left, no party is showing the extra support that would cause.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

its a myth that labour are losing the votes of the left, no party is showing the extra support that would cause.

Many just won't vote

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Corbyn could just be a backbencher doing what he's done for 40 odd years...and he's probably retiring soon anyway. Why fuck off a load of people just to make a point. Just seems a bit shit to me, and I am no Corbyn fan.

 

Corbyn’s vote share is on par or even lower than some north London constituencies so in theory it’s the Labour Party people are voting for there not for him.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Corbyn’s vote share is on par or even lower than some north London constituencies so in theory it’s the Labour Party people are voting for there not for him.

We'll see. I think Corbyn will win it.

BET NOW!

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Corbyn’s vote share is on par or even lower than some north London constituencies so in theory it’s the Labour Party people are voting for there not for him.

corbyn's vanity won't allow him to believe that.

[Neil]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

We'll see. I think Corbyn will win it.

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remember when blair said don't vote for ken livingstone?

[Neil]

3 hours ago, LJS said:

Close escape for the SNP today. Only a couple of % away from becoming as right wing as Labour.

kate forbes - most right-wing politician put forwards in the uk  for a major role in decades, thats where the snp are.

[Neil]

3 hours ago, LJS said:

Close escape for the SNP today. Only a couple of % away from becoming as right wing as Labour.

nearly 50% of snp members voted for a person to the right of the tories on many issues.

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Corbyn could just be a backbencher doing what he's done for 40 odd years...and he's probably retiring soon anyway. Why fuck off a load of people just to make a point. Just seems a bit shit to me, and I am no Corbyn fan.

 

Those people are already pissed off. Some will have already decided not to vote for labour, others will vote labour and hold their nose. I don’t think this will change any minds.  I do however think Corbyn is toxic for those who labour need to win over and from an electoral perspective more to be gained than lost by this move.

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

We'll see. I think Corbyn will win it.

BET NOW!

He might well do, it’s not certainly not beyond the realms of possibility but I’d say the more likely outcome is a Labour victory. 

[Neil]

13 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

He might well do, it’s not certainly not beyond the realms of possibility but I’d say the more likely outcome is a Labour victory. 

it'll be interesting to know if there's an abnormal number of newly registered voters?

[LJS]

29 minutes ago, Neil said:

it'll be interesting to know if there's an abnormal number of newly registered voters?

Outrageous allegation. Imagine encouraging folk to vote?

[LJS]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

nearly 50% of snp members voted for a person to the right of the tories on many issues.

And over 50% voted for a man who described himself as a socialist. Up here you can do that and win elections.

"Humza Yousaf will consider introducing wealth taxes if he wins the contest to succeed Nicola Sturgeon as First Minister

The SNP Health Secretary will look at raising cash from land, renewable energy projects and higher income tax for the better off to pay for more generous welfare benefits.

Yousaf, who described himself as a socialist, said the wealth tax plan would be discussed at an anti-poverty summit which would be his first meeting as First Minister."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/humza-yousaf-back-wealth-tax-29553552

[Neil]

wonder how come the rich haven't been taxed to death already if you scots are s oleft wing?

[Neil]

22 minutes ago, LJS said:

Outrageous allegation. Imagine encouraging folk to vote?

imagine dismissing the possibility of gerrymandering?

[mattiloy]

9 hours ago, Neil said:

its a myth that labour are losing the votes of the left, no party is showing the extra support that would cause.

I will be voting green and if i got a call from a pollster i wouldn’t be responding.

I’d say I wouldn’t be alone.

[Guest]

The head of the BoE is now blaming retirees. 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, mattiloy said:

I will be voting green and if i got a call from a pollster i wouldn’t be responding.

I’d say I wouldn’t be alone.

You might as well support the Tories, like jezza will do.

[fraybentos1]

8 hours ago, LJS said:

And over 50% voted for a man who described himself as a socialist. Up here you can do that and win elections.

"Humza Yousaf will consider introducing wealth taxes if he wins the contest to succeed Nicola Sturgeon as First Minister

The SNP Health Secretary will look at raising cash from land, renewable energy projects and higher income tax for the better off to pay for more generous welfare benefits.

Yousaf, who described himself as a socialist, said the wealth tax plan would be discussed at an anti-poverty summit which would be his first meeting as First Minister."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/humza-yousaf-back-wealth-tax-29553552

Yousaf a socialist 🤣 You cannot take that nonsense seriously surely