news & politics:discussion

[mattiloy]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Election day in Turkey. 🤞

Fingers crossed for the Corbyn candidate and not the Starmer candidate. So long as its in a different country

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2 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Fingers crossed for the Corbyn candidate and not the Starmer candidate. So long as its in a different country

now you're being silly.

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5 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

The great red hope

very happy to stay as mayor of gtr manc apparently.

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12 hours ago, Ozanne said:

 

it isn't just EU citizens, right? 

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27 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

So it’s ok for the Torys to try and rig the system through boundary changes and voter ID (when no evidence of voting fraud), but not ok for labour to do the same.

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[Guest]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

it isn't just EU citizens, right? 

It’s 16-17 year olds and EU citizens. 

[mattiloy]

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

It’s 16-17 year olds and EU citizens. 

Why not non-EU citizens?

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17 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Didn't take long.

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Here's the speech where Starmer admitted he was Tory scum.

Keir Starmer’s speech to Progressive Britain Conference 2023 – “Country First” - Google Docs

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Will Erdogan finally get kicked out, like Corbyn?

BET NOW!

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1 hour ago, mattiloy said:

Article here
Keir Starmer scales back plan to extend voting rights to EU citizens | Financial Times (ft.com)

would only be for EU citizens who had been here for a number of years...which actually sounds kind of fair to me...and you don't want to go upsetting all the salt of the earth zenophobes after all...but also I think they should extend it to non EU nationals like my partner who has been here for 30 odd years working and paying tax and still can't vote..whereas you get all these bloody emigrants voting who don't have to live with the consequences.

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Why not non-EU citizens?

I’ve no idea, the policy hasn’t been fully announced yet just leaked.

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Turnout for Turkey elections was 93.6% !! That is bloody impressive.

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Just now, Ozanne said:

I’ve no idea, the policy hasn’t been fully announced yet just leaked.

Yes, it's in that FT article. He hasn't said anything about this recently, it was 3 years ago...but Telegraph has found out it will be in manifesto and so labour have had to row back on it. We'll just have to see.

This whole election campaign is going to be loads of shit like this...anything that looks soft on crime or protests or EU or woke or whatever from Labour will be jumped all over by tory media and politicians....and Starmer will continuously have to look like he's definitely not sir softy and is infact mr hardman and all the lefties will accuse him of being a Tory...rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

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Erdogan ahead with 59.5%. Come on CorbsErdogan!

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predictions that will go to a 2nd round, which I think favours Erdogan.

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If Erdogan does win that is kind of amazing and depressing...they have rampant inflation, there was all the stuff around shit buildings and the earthquakes, and then all the corruption and autocracy...but he is islamic and for many that is the most important thing. And we see rise of religious right in the west too. Depressing, but maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Come on KeirKilicdaroglu!

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it is like we see everywhere...conservative (small c) voters in rural areas, more liberal/progressive voters in cities. Come on whatshisname! Fuck the country bumpkin rednecks!

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[Rufus Gwertigan]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Article here
Keir Starmer scales back plan to extend voting rights to EU citizens | Financial Times (ft.com)

would only be for EU citizens who had been here for a number of years...which actually sounds kind of fair to me...and you don't want to go upsetting all the salt of the earth zenophobes after all...but also I think they should extend it to non EU nationals like my partner who has been here for 30 odd years working and paying tax and still can't vote..whereas you get all these bloody emigrants voting who don't have to live with the consequences.

I totally agree. If someone is paying taxes here they should be able to vote. Just out of noseyness is your partner able to vote in local elections

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I totally agree. If someone is paying taxes here they should be able to vote. Just out of noseyness is your partner able to vote in local elections

Nope. She's Japanese.  She doesn't seem as bothered as me that she can't vote.

Edited May 14, 2023 by steviewevie

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