news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

25 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Watching that Laura K State of Chaos programme... lots of fond memories of 2019...

Now it's the early days of the pandemic...fond memories of the sh*t thread before it became a sh*t thread.

Worth a watch, episode 2 on iPlayer

 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Tax avoidance?

yeah, think it was westwood in bed with tax avoiders.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

. If they were bright then they’d try to get Labour into power. 

aren't a lot of them the same peeps as momentum...?

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

All of the electorate.

[Neil]

Truss: raise the retirement age. It's the Only way to create space for tax cuts.

They can raise it all they like. I'm out of the workforce and I'm not going back.

[pink_triangle]

For anyone with a spare hour there is a very good interview with Rory Stewart on Novara Media. A good discussion between 2 people with opposing political views, both listening and respecting the other, without shouting over each other.

[steviewevie]

37 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

For anyone with a spare hour there is a very good interview with Rory Stewart on Novara Media. A good discussion between 2 people with opposing political views, both listening and respecting the other, without shouting over each other.

There was a bit of a hoo-ha with his comments about Corbyn.

Edited September 18, 2023 by steviewevie

[Guest]

Haha they are panicking. They can’t handle Starmer being statesmen-like on the international stage and going about putting plans in place to deal with issues they created. Starmer knows what he’s doing.

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Haha they are panicking. They can’t handle Starmer being statesmen-like on the international stage and going about putting plans in place to deal with issues they created. Starmer knows what he’s doing.

everyone just uses the language of Farage now.

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

everyone just uses the language of Farage now.

He’s slowly bringing us closer and closer to the EU. 

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

He’s slowly bringing us closer and closer to the EU. 

dont think he can do very much, 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Neil said:

dont think he can do very much, 

No he probably can’t but it’s a good sign that the EU at this stage are so receptive to him. Trust in the process, he knows what he’s doing. 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

No he probably can’t but it’s a good sign that the EU at this stage are so receptive to him. Trust in the process, he knows what he’s doing. 

yeah, building bridges etc.

[Neil]

33 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, building bridges etc.

What he can't do is restore the UK in the EU.

[Nobody Interesting]

13 hours ago, Neil said:

i cant remember what the issue was (at odds with green values) but it was quite widely reported.

All I can guess is that she is part of the fashion industry and that industry is not green but if you read the press statement that goes with the donation that is all covered.

So the money is more realisation of the harm she has done and is prepared to change and put her money where her mouth is - so not dodgy at all.

[Nobody Interesting]

13 hours ago, Skip997 said:

As I keep saying...

skills used in the oil and gas industry are very transferable to the renewables industry

Lots of people, like you and me, say this - cos it is true - but the parties who will make up power seem blind to it as do many of their loyal supporters.

[Nobody Interesting]

12 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

Just what I have been saying for years

[Nobody Interesting]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

everyone just uses the language of Farage now.

or as it has been known for a long time prior to Garage....

The language of hate

Edited September 19, 2023 by Nobody Interesting

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Lots of people, like you and me, say this - cos it is true - but the parties who will make up power seem blind to it as do many of their loyal supporters.

Labour are saying this, some of the unions need persuading.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Labour are saying this, some of the unions need persuading.

So why won't Labour commit to cancelling all Oil and Gas licenses issued under the Tories now? They can say all they want but unless actions happen words are empty

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Just what I have been saying for years

must be frustrating.

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

must be frustrating.

Some of my best friends are brick walls - they must be cos I spend half my life talking to them.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

So why won't Labour commit to cancelling all Oil and Gas licenses issued under the Tories now? They can say all they want but unless actions happen words are empty

don't think that has anything to do with unions, although might be part of decision...probably more due to legal/financial reasons.