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[Nobody Interesting]

9 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

nice 1 ... appears some protesters got delayed by quite a large number of GMP

 

Only ever so slightly over the top.

[Guest]

He hates scrutiny. 

[Neil]

48 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Only ever so slightly over the top.

the old bill over the top - never happened before.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

He hates scrutiny. 

know he doesn't have answers!

[Neil]

i don't get the point of 

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 a new UK-wide aggravated offence of assaulting or abusing a retail worker

if there's no prosecution with current laws why would things be different with a specific law????

[steviewevie]

I'm in there somewhere...saw this being filmed...can you spot me..?

 

[steviewevie]

he's right though, there were people from all sorts of different groups...unions, socialist worker, various communist/marxist groups, stop the war, cnd, a bit of rejoin, trans rights, eco groups, student groups and a few awkward centrists like me. There were a hec of a lot of police, but I guess mostly to protect conference. It was good, went with kid, we were near front walking just behind Laura Pidcock. There were this lot from young communist league or something who looked intimidating and cool and I asked if I could join up but apparently being a capitalist 53 year old excludes me.

Edited October 1, 2023 by steviewevie

[Crazyfool01]

21 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

he's right though, there were people from all sorts of different groups...unions, socialist worker, various communist/marxist groups, stop the war, cnd, a bit of rejoin, trans rights, eco groups, student groups and a few awkward centrists like me. There were a hec of a lot of police, but I guess mostly to protect conference. It was good, went with kid, we were near front walking just behind Laura Pidcock. There were this lot from young communist league or something who looked intimidating and cool and I asked if I could join up but apparently being a capitalist 53 year old excludes me.

pretty standard for a conference protest id imagine ..... and pretty similar to some of the covid protests  I watched with people seeking the opportunity to protest any  cause .... surprised that it was the nhs protestors that got pulled and not these guys though GMP must have had some intelligence on them 🙂 

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

he's right though, there were people from all sorts of different groups...unions, socialist worker, various communist/marxist groups, stop the war, cnd, a bit of rejoin, trans rights, eco groups, student groups and a few awkward centrists like me. There were a hec of a lot of police, but I guess mostly to protect conference. It was good, went with kid, we were near front walking just behind Laura Pidcock. There were this lot from young communist league or something who looked intimidating and cool and I asked if I could join up but apparently being a capitalist 53 year old excludes me.

Resist Tory by voting Labour or whoever tactically can unseat them in your constituency. 

[steviewevie]

 

[Nobody Interesting]

36 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Resist Tory by voting Labour or whoever tactically can unseat them in your constituency. 

No

I will vote for who I want, not tactically.

I have done the later before, what a waste of time. Achieved nothing.

So I shall vote Green regardless.

As I have said before, if small parties get a good percentage then those in power sit up and take note - UKIP 2013 onwards and the promise for  a referendum as a result. If the small party percentage falls, the big boys can ignore them - UKIP 2016 onwards.

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

No

I will vote for who I want, not tactically.

I have done the later before, what a waste of time. Achieved nothing.

So I shall vote Green regardless.

As I have said before, if small parties get a good percentage then those in power sit up and take note - UKIP 2013 onwards and the promise for  a referendum as a result. If the small party percentage falls, the big boys can ignore them - UKIP 2016 onwards.

and so tories get a larger percentage of the vote with their anti green policies...

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

No

I will vote for who I want, not tactically.

I have done the later before, what a waste of time. Achieved nothing.

So I shall vote Green regardless.

As I have said before, if small parties get a good percentage then those in power sit up and take note - UKIP 2013 onwards and the promise for  a referendum as a result. If the small party percentage falls, the big boys can ignore them - UKIP 2016 onwards.

Then you will enable the Tories. 

[Nobody Interesting]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

and so tories get a larger percentage of the vote with their anti green policies...

You need to learn maths...... as long as my vote is not Tory it does not alter their overall percentage of the vote.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

You need to learn maths...... as long as my vote is not Tory it does not alter their overall percentage of the vote.

oh yeah.

But it could keep them in power.

[Nobody Interesting]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Then you will enable the Tories. 

Bless you - and also.......................... be serious............... my one vote enable nobody and I honestly hate it when this is used t#o try and 'blackmail' people

I want:
PR
Net zero by 2035
Roads building scrapped and all that  investment in public transport
No nuclear
To rejoin the EU

Just 5 things I want.................. so I vote Labour who offer none of them? That would be stupid.
I vote Lib Dem who offer just one pf them - that would be stupid.


If you lived in a constituancy where in 2019 Labour came third to the Lib Dems and Tories would you vote Lib Dem? Of course you wouldn't.

I vote for what I want - not something else in so blind hope they decide to change their policies.......................

and anyway, my constituancy is now new due to boundary changes so there is no way of knowing who won, came second etc.......

 

The only person I enable is myself with my right to a democratic vote

[Nobody Interesting]

Just now, steviewevie said:

oh yeah.

But it could keep them in power.

I can see the headlines now - weird cucumber in Wales's single vote changes the entire outcome of the election.........

I have morals, ethics and principals - that is what I vote for............... not some alternative in some dream land that they will change to give me what I hope for.

[Nobody Interesting]

Should all the good people of Brighton now vote Labour rather than Green..................... just in case.

No, they should keep voting Green, the way they chose to and if they return a new Green MP that voice will be heard in Parliament.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I can see the headlines now - weird cucumber in Wales's single vote changes the entire outcome of the election.........

I have morals, ethics and principals - that is what I vote for............... not some alternative in some dream land that they will change to give me what I hope for.

there's no praise like self praise

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Bless you - and also.......................... be serious............... my one vote enable nobody and I honestly hate it when this is used t#o try and 'blackmail' people

I want:
PR
Net zero by 2035
Roads building scrapped and all that  investment in public transport
No nuclear
To rejoin the EU

Just 5 things I want.................. so I vote Labour who offer none of them? That would be stupid.
I vote Lib Dem who offer just one pf them - that would be stupid.


If you lived in a constituancy where in 2019 Labour came third to the Lib Dems and Tories would you vote Lib Dem? Of course you wouldn't.

I vote for what I want - not something else in so blind hope they decide to change their policies.......................

and anyway, my constituancy is now new due to boundary changes so there is no way of knowing who won, came second etc.......

 

The only person I enable is myself with my right to a democratic vote

I’d vote tactically to get the Tories out because I want the Tories. If people like you vote as you will then we will get a Tory government. You can’t criticise others anymore for how they vote, you went on a bout people not voting Green, yet here you are. 

[Nobody Interesting]

Just now, steviewevie said:

there's no praise like self praise

and there is little worse than blackmail to try and get someone to change their vote which is where this conversation started.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said:

pretty standard for a conference protest id imagine ..... and pretty similar to some of the covid protests  I watched with people seeking the opportunity to protest any  cause .... surprised that it was the nhs protestors that got pulled and not these guys though GMP must have had some intelligence on them 🙂 

First time GMP and intelligence have been in the same sentence.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I’d vote tactically to get the Tories out because I want the Tories. If people like you vote as you will then we will get a Tory government. You can’t criticise others anymore for how they vote, you went on a bout people not voting Green, yet here you are. 

I absolutely guarantee that you would vote Labour as on here before you have said just that - you would vote Labour regardless.

Anyway, I can vote for who I want and if I do I have not elected a Tory government. It is impossible for one person in one constituancy to do that..................

 

and like always, when I ask difficulty questions of you, you ignore those parts.......................... why would I ever vote for parties whose policies are the opposite of my desires?

and as for saying because I choose to vote Green I am not allowed to say anything about how others vote - get real, grow up and please stop being pathetic. You actually do more harm to undecided voters with that sort of language.

I really cannot be bothered when people try and blackmail and blame 'you' for an election result just because you do not vote they way they want you to - how is that democracy?

Goodnight

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

and there is little worse than blackmail to try and get someone to change their vote which is where this conversation started.

blackmail?

Nothing worse than some condescending patronising bless you bollocks.

Anyway, vote Green, then you can feel good about yourself...and if tories win then f**k'em at least you can sleep at night, as long as you have AC of course

[Nobody Interesting]

Just now, steviewevie said:

blackmail?

Nothing worse than some condescending patronising bless you bollocks.

Anyway, vote Green, then you can feel good about yourself...and if tories win then f**k'em at least you can sleep at night, as long as you have AC of course

The other poster used blackmail - if I do not vote tactically then the Tories winning is my fault.

I will vote green and I will be happy.

and if you want to know what really is patronising - it is the pretence on the internet that you are more than you are - and f**k me there is lots of that on here.

Nobody bothered to respond to the why would I vote for parties whose policies are the opposite of what I want - likely because that is far to hard when insults and accusations are far easier - if all of this is the version of a democratic system you lot want then have fun lives where nothing will ever change.