news & politics:discussion

[Rufus Gwertigan]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

So you're comparing soldiers with civilians?

A sad day when there is a difference in a life. A life is a life.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

A sad day when there is a difference in a life. A life is a life.

I mean...Israel's response is arguably disproportionate as it is...don't think there's a need to fudge the numbers to make it look even worse...

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Jan 2024 election?

Nah, it’ll mostly be a VONC in Sunak as Tory leader but he’ll win and carry on as normal. 

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I mean...Israel's response is arguably disproportionate as it is...don't think there's a need to fudge the numbers to make it look even worse...

Israel normally runs its revenge at about

Twenty to one.

[Neil]

Israel is talking about a hamas tunnel network in South Gaza now. So either their intelligence is ropy or they're lying to the world.

[steviewevie]

Jenrick was moderate Sunak loyalist once upon a time....

 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

Israel is talking about a hamas tunnel network in South Gaza now. So either their intelligence is ropy or they're lying to the world.

There's supposed to be tunnels in north and south.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Jenrick was moderate Sunak loyalist once upon a time....

 

this has all come from Sunak's silly promise to STOP THE BOATS.

[Cherry Tree]

22 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

this has all come from Sunak's silly promise to STOP THE BOATS.

I remember when Jenrick was appointed, the media viewed him as a safe pair of hands to counter Suella as Home Secretary. That worked well.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Cherry Tree

[Ryan1984]

Do we think Jenrick will be the first of a few to go this week?

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

So it looks like next week will be a confidence matter in the government. 

[Neil]

2 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

What are you on about ?

Israel are now saying they're attacking south Gaza to wipe out the tunnels, same as they said for north Gaza, seems they don't know where the tunnels are.

[Guest]

Remember the days and days of commentary about Starmer losing the grip on his party? Well let’s see if the same happens now. 

[steviewevie]

Looks like Republicans really are going to block US funds to Ukraine.

[cellar]

17 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Remember the days and days of commentary about Starmer losing the grip on his party? Well let’s see if the same happens now. 

3 headlines tonight from Guardian, Independent and Sky News:

"Robert Jenrick quits frontbench over Rwanda bill, piling pressure on Sunak"

"Robert Jenrick resigns as immigration minister over Rwanda in huge blow for Sunak"

and

"Rishi Sunak facing political fight of his life as he wars with right wing Tories over Rwanda bill"

[pink_triangle]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Jenrick was moderate Sunak loyalist once upon a time....

 

Looks like pure opportunism to me. Jenrick looking for a top job in a Braverman led team.

[Neil]

2 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Or you can't do everything all at once...    Its well known where the tunnels are...

a couple of weeks ago they were only in the north.

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Looks like pure opportunism to me. Jenrick looking for a top job in a Braverman led team.

I reckpn Braverman blew it with her hissy fit.

Reckon it will be Badenoch now. Mordaunt and Cleverly have a chance, but if they pick another right winger again I think Badenoch. Braverman won't make last two.

[steviewevie]

Apparently in that bill it states that Rwanda is safe for non Rwandans, but unsafe for Rwandans...so we can send asylum seekers there and Rwandans can come and claim asylum here.

[steviewevie]

9 hours ago, Neil said:

Israel are now saying they're attacking south Gaza to wipe out the tunnels, same as they said for north Gaza, seems they don't know where the tunnels are.

No, I think they always knew that there were tunnel networks all over Gaza...but maybe they thought just invading North Gaza would be enough, when maybe Hamas had actually worked out they could move south too. There are still loads of Hamas fighters, let alone Hama members...Israel are going to struggle to kill them all without totally destroying Gaza, which seems to be the end goal at the moment. They may as well drop a nuke on it.

Edited December 7, 2023 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

likes of Braverman and Goodwin on the airwaves bullshitting and dog whistling and exploiting this issue for their own aggrandisement and ambition. Braverman in particular, she spectacularly failed as home secretary and desperately tried to get herself sacked and now that she doesn't have to worry about something called responsibility just barks from the sidelines focusing on what tory members get frothy about. 

[squirrelarmy]

PM making a statement at 10

Predictions?

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

PM making a statement at 10

Predictions?

A referendum on leaving planet earth?