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1 hour ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Rightly or wrongly but Thatcher did more to meet emissions standards by the decimation of coal.

Yep the left caught up later after the fall of the berlin wall. Their old left green was more around CND / nuclear and after the USSR collapsed they needed to evolve into something else.

As I said the issue is they've left the working class behind. There is a reason say Stoke City FC haven't changed their nickname from the potters to the call centre workers. These were not just jobs rather something more akin to a sense of culture and identity. Simply saying we will take your old polluting job and give you a new nice green job doesn't cut it.

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I've been wanting to get myself a new bag ( for my bits and pieces when out) for a while, but haven't  been able to find one I like cos of being one handed I need a bag where I can operate the zips with one hand.

 

For the bag I've been using I can only work the zips when wearing the bag, so I'm pulling the zip against the strap -  having to put the bag on to open it is a bit annoying so wanted one I can open a bit easier I saw one earlier I liked so found it online and ordered it and another bag i liked. so i can try them out and see how I get on with them. Glad to get that dilemma resolved for the moment and I can now stop looking at bags.

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13 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Greens have always been kind of middle class hippies, right? Not sure how that fits into left/right economically....but now you probably need a more interventionist state if going to get to net zero.

Greens do not fit into the old system - there is a square split into 4 squares where the top left is 'left' top right is 'right' and greens are left of the bottom left............... each square has a label - this is a simple versionl, the on eI recall is more detailed.

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and don't forget - far right and far left are pretty much one and the same as the system is circular rather than linear hecne bugger all difference really between Stalin and Hitler.

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