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28 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

they can't quite say ceasefire.

Isn’t what they are saying what you want though? To some extent. 

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One thing that has struck me living in Sweden is that I’m just not as invested or engaged in the politics news cycle over here as I was in the uk politics/news cycle - I’ve got sort of 3/4 of a foot in the uk and 1/4 of a foot in Sweden in terms of engagement.

Today by chance I heard about a change in a law proposed by the right wing govt to reform the strandskydd law (shoreline protection law) which prevents new building within a few hundred metres of the shoreline.

Since this is something that I am really strongly against, and how I only heard about it by chance, it dawned on my how out of touch with it all I am here. And then it dawned on me how now I’m like an average Joe out of touch guy in the uk but here, if you catch my drift.

Basically, I am just grasping how difficult it is to reach most of the population. Most things wont cut through. I’m a busy dad of a 2 year old and a foreigner so I dont keep abreast of everything but I am nonetheless very interested and want to be as informed as possible. And yet important things can pass me by.

So I thought about my own job in the bank. Whenever we change our rates or terms and conditions we are obliged to directly inform our customers. Often it is at great expense as we have to send physical letters out to most.

Why should governments be any different?

Why should we have to consume basically all the news, scroll endlessly through twitter, to find out whats changing with the laws in our countries?

I think if each outgoing government had to produce a physical document describing all the changes they’d made to laws and deliver that into the postboxes of every citizen in the country well ahead of election day they wouldnt get away with half of much shite as they do.

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One thing that has struck me living in Sweden is that I’m just not as invested or engaged in the politics news cycle over here as I was in the uk politics/news cycle - I’ve got sort of 3/4 of a foot in the uk and 1/4 of a foot in Sweden in terms of engagement.

Today by chance I heard about a change in a law proposed by the right wing govt to reform the strandskydd law (shoreline protection law) which prevents new building within a few hundred metres of the shoreline.

Since this is something that I am really strongly against, and how I only heard about it by chance, it dawned on my how out of touch with it all I am here. And then it dawned on me how now I’m like an average Joe out of touch guy in the uk but here, if you catch my drift.

Basically, I am just grasping how difficult it is to reach most of the population. Most things wont cut through. I’m a busy dad of a 2 year old and a foreigner so I dont keep abreast of everything but I am nonetheless very interested and want to be as informed as possible. And yet important things can pass me by.

So I thought about my own job in the bank. Whenever we change our rates or terms and conditions we are obliged to directly inform our customers. Often it is at great expense as we have to send physical letters out to most.

Why should governments be any different?

Why should we have to consume basically all the news, scroll endlessly through twitter, to find out whats changing with the laws in our countries?

I think if each outgoing government had to produce a physical document describing all the changes they’d made to laws and deliver that into the postboxes of every citizen in the country well ahead of election day they wouldnt get away with half of much shite as they do.

if we can dip in and out then we can choose to dip into the things which interest use - probably why you're less interested in Swedish news - cos a lot of it means nothing to you without some research, like this building law.

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9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

If Sunak wins that vote tomorrow then I guess he can say he's had a good week. Will likely kick off again at some point in the future though.

With a 50 seat majority winning a vote shouldn’t be an achievement, the media will probably try to claim it is though. 

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if we can dip in and out then we can choose to dip into the things which interest use - probably why you're less interested in Swedish news - cos a lot of it means nothing to you without some research, like this building law.

 

I am fluent in Swedish. I just read less of their news because there is no bbc news and the better news sites are behind paywalls. The issue is that the onus is on the citizen to endlessly read (often commercial) news to understand what is happening with their laws. Why is that acceptable with government but with no other industry? If we change the Ts and Cs (the contract law that governs our relationship with our customers) we have to inform them and the onus is on us to do so. Which is right. But why for the govt does that responsibility lie with the voter to consume all the info via usually partisan sources. Isnt that a bit f**ked?

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I am fluent in Swedish. I just read less of their news because there is no bbc news and the better news sites are behind paywalls. The issue is that the onus is on the citizen to endlessly read (often commercial) news to understand what is happening with their laws. Why is that acceptable with government but with no other industry? If we change the Ts and Cs (the contract law that governs our relationship with our customers) we have to inform them and the onus is on us to do so. Which is right. But why for the govt does that responsibility lie with the voter to consume all the info via usually partisan sources. Isnt that a bit f**ked?

i reckon i'm fluent in English too, but when i see a list of headlines i know which ones might interest me and which pones might not, the reasons they interest me varies hugely, to include places I've been, concepts I've been following, etc,  something unfamiliar to me which pricks my interest, etc. without the familiarity i'd have less interest in the news and i'd read fewer things.

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