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[Rufus Gwertigan]

3 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

I’m not sure which imbecile at Leeds council signed off a major Palestine protest at the same time as all the Leeds fans are making their way to the match. 

Complete carnage in town as 10000s of fans are trying to find new routes to the stadium as the usual routes are full of protesters. 

It’s like the protesters are deliberately looking to cause problems. 

I am in a student area and Last night there was a demo but I swear that the chat sounded like Free Plasticine. I was tempted to go out and get some.

[Neil]

21 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I am in a student area and Last night there was a demo but I swear that the chat sounded like Free Plasticine. I was tempted to go out and get some.

there might have been cornflakes too. 😛 

 

 

 

"free Palestine with every packet of cornflakes".

[Neil]

5 hours ago, Neil said:

IN BRISTOL RECENTLY WE HAD A GAZA PROTEST CROSS PATHS WITH THE SANTAS ON MOTORBIKES.

IT LIVENED UP A SOMBRE PROTEST.

 

[Neil]

soewhere in that santa pic is the sweet little lady who comes to cut my nails and who rides a beast of a bike with a sidecar.

[steviewevie]

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[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

if its all about the nhs labour will leap ahead when campaigning starts proper.

[SheffJeff]

12 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

I’m not sure which imbecile at Leeds council signed off a major Palestine protest at the same time as all the Leeds fans are making their way to the match. 

Complete carnage in town as 10000s of fans are trying to find new routes to the stadium as the usual routes are full of protesters. 

It’s like the protesters are deliberately looking to cause problems. 

I f**king hate it when a load of people protesting about thousands of people dying get in the way of football fans getting to a football match... inconsiderate c**ts.

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, Neil said:

if its all about the nhs labour will leap ahead when campaigning starts proper.

It's going to be all about immigration if Farage gets his way.

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's going to be all about immigration if Farage gets his way.

Ha imagine with all the cost of living issues, NHS struggles and then going into a voting booth with immigration as your main priority. I would dare say those people don’t exist. 

[steviewevie]

45 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Ha imagine with all the cost of living issues, NHS struggles and then going into a voting booth with immigration as your main priority. I would dare say those people don’t exist. 

It will be important to some, and if they're more inclined to vote Reform that could be a big problem for the Tories.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, SheffJeff said:

I f**king hate it when a load of people protesting about thousands of people dying get in the way of football fans getting to a football match... inconsiderate c**ts.

Third world problems meets first world problems.

[lazyred]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

Ha imagine with all the cost of living issues, NHS struggles and then going into a voting booth with immigration as your main priority. I would dare say those people don’t exist. 

Don't make the mistake of dismissing these people. It's easy to make an argument that reducing immigration will reduce pressure on public services. You have to acknowledge their problems and explain why there is a better solution.

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, lazyred said:

Don't make the mistake of dismissing these people. It's easy to make an argument that reducing immigration will reduce pressure on public services. You have to acknowledge their problems and explain why there is a better solution.

 

I just don’t think people will go into a voting booth at the next GE and top of their priority list will be illegal migration. It will be cost of living. In fact all recent by-elections don’t show Reform picking many voters so it seems to not be high up on people’s agenda. 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I just don’t think people will go into a voting booth at the next GE and top of their priority list will be illegal migration. It will be cost of living. In fact all recent by-elections don’t show Reform picking many voters so it seems to not be high up on people’s agenda. 

Yeah, Blackpool South might be an interesting one, have to see how well Reform do there.

[lazyred]

24 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I just don’t think people will go into a voting booth at the next GE and top of their priority list will be illegal migration. It will be cost of living. In fact all recent by-elections don’t show Reform picking many voters so it seems to not be high up on people’s agenda. 

YouGov tracker of voter concenrs has immigration increasing and the economy decreasing.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/trackers/the-most-important-issues-facing-the-country

Reform don't expect to win they want to influence Conservative policies. Reform is up at 10% in some polls. Thats enough to lose some Tory seats so they are trying to win those voters back with an anti immigration message. 

 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, lazyred said:

YouGov tracker of voter concenrs has immigration increasing and the economy decreasing.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/trackers/the-most-important-issues-facing-the-country

Reform don't expect to win they want to influence Conservative policies. Reform is up at 10% in some polls. Thats enough to lose some Tory seats so they are trying to win those voters back with an anti immigration message. 

 

Thats what I mean, Reform is up to 10% in some polls yet all recent elections don’t show that support filtering through.  We need to see it in elections before we can say Reform are any real threat. 

[lost]

It depends on the polls and the parties available to the right of the Tories. One of the recent by-elections, I think it was Tamworth, it was just under 10% of the vote but split between Reform, Britain First and UKIP. They all beat the greens and lib dems

[Neil]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

It's going to be all about immigration if Farage gets his way.

the tories will like that, labour will let everyone in.

[steviewevie]

58 minutes ago, Neil said:

the tories will like that, labour will let everyone in.

And labour will just point at government's track record.

[steviewevie]

Cameron has announced that UK and Germany now calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Cameron has announced that UK and Germany now calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.

i guess he's happy with the wording being used. 🙂 

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Neil said:

i guess he's happy with the wording being used. 🙂 

Sustainable ceasefire. France calling for immediate one.