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35 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I had an amazing experience this morning where I phoned the doctors for an appointment and actually got one.  

happened to me a few weeks back. 🙂 

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6 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Weren’t we told that things were improving?

We’re told what they want us to think, like small boats crossing the channel are a “priority” for the population (they’re not) or that the economy is growing under the Tories (it isn’t). They’re so desperate to have us unthinkingly adopt their own agenda as priorities that they can’t stop waffling on about how important their chosen wedge issues are to us. 

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Wow, UN security council just managed to pass something on Israel...but this one was watered down so US didn't veto again and now doesn't call for a ceasefire but just for more humanitarian aid...so Israel can carry on with their bloodlust but at least more bandaids will make it in. US and Russia both abstained...Russia because they were not happy with US not wanting a ceasefire and they're such peaceniks and not using this for political reasons at all , US because...well, f**k knows...they don't want to upset their Israeli mates.

But at least it does get UN more involved now. In practice now sure how much difference that means.

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here we go..merry christmas...obviously scared of potential tory attack lines about being spendthrifts on green crap...if they were never going to do it they should have not come up with this number, maybe they thought at the time they wouldn't win the next election anyway so why not. All a bit sh*t really, and will disappoint a lot of people who thought that Labour might do something at least a little bit radical. They are losing the youth vote by the minute. Instead of things can only get better it will be everything is f**ked and it isn't going to get much better

 

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13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

here we go..merry christmas...obviously scared of potential tory attack lines about being spendthrifts on green crap...if they were never going to do it they should have not come up with this number, maybe they thought at the time they wouldn't win the next election anyway so why not. All a bit sh*t really, and will disappoint a lot of people who thought that Labour might do something at least a little bit radical. They are losing the youth vote by the minute. Instead of things can only get better it will be everything is f**ked and it isn't going to get much better

 

There doesn’t seem anything in that article to be worried about. It’s mostly Labour focussing on the messaging and trying to veer the focus away from the price tag which is just common sense. Theres nothing in there that would indicate they are veering away from green policies.

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3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

There doesn’t seem anything in that article to be worried about. It’s mostly Labour focussing on the messaging and trying to veer the focus away from the price tag which is just common sense. Theres nothing in there that would indicate they are veering away from green policies.

yes ok, hopefully, but it's that number. They should have never come out with it if they were going to be scared to promote it when got closer to an election...because no matter what, that looks like a further watering down of a supposed green new deal policy which is what they were all about. I wonder if Red Ed will quit if they do drop it?

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4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yes ok, hopefully, but it's that number. They should have never come out with it if they were going to be scared to promote it when got closer to an election...because no matter what, that looks like a further watering down of a supposed green new deal policy which is what they were all about. I wonder if Red Ed will quit if they do drop it?

actually does say this...

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