news & politics:discussion

[Crazyfool01]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

You'll be a Tory 30 years from now. Happens to all of us. It's happening to me.

Only joking, I am very very left wing. Extreme leftie.

this could go on for some time 🙂 meanwhile emergency govt briefing tonite with the speaker , FFS cant we just stay out of conflicts 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

We haven't got much choice...  You understand how important the Suez Canal is don't you ?

yep I remember the boat stuck , a trip around takes 8 days now and things have slightly eased .  I guess people said that ref Iraq , never seems to sort anything . Im more about conflict resolution than bombing the sh*t out of everything ... not every country will get involved 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

this could go on for some time 🙂 meanwhile emergency govt briefing tonite with the speaker , FFS cant we just stay out of conflicts 

Global trade routes innit

[Guest]

 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, cellar said:

Haha I love this... I'm not really sure about matiloy to be honest, it usually seems like he's talking academically in his posts so I never got a real sense of where he actually falls. I reckon Stevie is more left than he comes across.

Nobody, Skip, Crazy, me, Stevie, Fray, Barry, Neil, Ozanne, Lost

I guess based on other peoples rankings matiloy falls somewhere left of Stevie

Mattiloy the capitalist banker is not of the left. As a Corbyn fan he's of the daft.

I expect better political awareness than that by the real left.

[Neil]

34 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

This quote about insanity being doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Like backing Corbyn.

34 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

I dont want to be 30 years from now, in my 60s, at the end of another 13 year Tory shitshow begrudgingly voting for another ham faced Blair tribute act so that I can get my free bus pass a year earlier or whatever the f**k. Its just not good enough. If you want things to change, you can’t passively accept whatever old shite they serve you up 

As you did with Corbyn. No thinking done .

[Crazyfool01]

6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

No because they lean on the USA to sort everything out.  The alternative is just give into the thugs.  Do you think you can talk and reason with Iran and Houthi scum ? 

not sure tbh but I dont think bombing the sh*t out of people / things helps further down the line 

[Neil]

The only ones in my lifetime not blairlike achieved f**k all useful 

[mattiloy]

21 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

this could go on for some time 🙂 meanwhile emergency govt briefing tonite with the speaker , FFS cant we just stay out of conflicts 

A little concerned that Sunak and Biden could both probably benefit from a good war in an election year where they’re struggling in the polls.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

Would you have just talked with the Nazis ?   had tea with Slobodan Milošević ?

they had talks with the IRA .... think that was the Labour Party initially . Needs to start somewhere , although invading other countries is slightly different 

[mattiloy]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

Like backing Corbyn.

As you did with Corbyn. No thinking done .

Here comes the cavalry!

I dont know what your politics are. But incoherent rage tends to indicate something towards the right.

Why don’t you wipe the spit off your screen and chill out for once instead.

[Neil]

18 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

yep I remember the boat stuck , a trip around takes 8 days now and things have slightly eased .  I guess people said that ref Iraq , never seems to sort anything . Im more about conflict resolution than bombing the sh*t out of everything ... not every country will get involved 

Eight days of fuel is probably several hundred thousand quid . It's a hundred grand for my bruvs super yuaght.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

As always you evade the question 😛 

 

so answer yes if I could prevent further conflict and death of innocents on all sides 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Neil said:

Eight days of fuel is probably several hundred thousand quid . It's a hundred grand for my bruvs super yuaght.

its going to be less safe while there's escalation though , presuming that they actually manage to stop the drones , which are pretty easy to get hold of . I mean what is the actually mission plan ? 

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Here comes the cavalry!

I dont know what your politics are. But incoherent rage tends to indicate something towards the right.

Why don’t you wipe the spit off your screen and chill out for once instead.

You suggested that people shouldn't go along with the crowd so why did you - your types have caused another five years of Tories 

Edited January 11 by Neil

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

Peace in our time!

Your thinking results in millions more being slaughtered than. Required 

I mean im probably a bit late now 

[mattiloy]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

You suggested that people shouldn't go along with the crowd so why did you - your types have caused another five years of Tories 

Ah yes, you’re right! Grrrrr naughty us for voting Labour in order to get the tories in! We shall all get spanked bottoms and sent to bed with no supper!!

[Neil]

im struggling to think of any left wing suggestions in this topic, most recent one i can think of was me suggesting 100% inheritance tax.(mostly lost behind my poor joke).

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Ah yes, you’re right! Grrrrr naughty us for voting Labour in order to get the tories in! We shall all get spanked bottoms and sent to bed with no supper!!

you voted corbyn to get the tories in. anyone with any political nouce knew what would happen, corbyn was always unsuitable as leader.

you wanted an incompetent in charge and got your wish with spaffer.

[Neil]

I've just turned on BBC news channel to a comedy program -  the lords debating parliamentary democracy.

[steviewevie]

45 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

its going to be less safe while there's escalation though , presuming that they actually manage to stop the drones , which are pretty easy to get hold of . I mean what is the actually mission plan ? 

Shouldn't this decision go through parliament?

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Shouldn't this decision go through parliament?

would hope so but looks like they avoid it by calling in speaker and opposition leader , if what ive read is accurate . mad times 😞 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Shouldn't this decision go through parliament?

In theory no but Cameron set a precedent where military action goes through Parliament.

[Guest]

 

[Guest]

Sunak could’ve recalled Parliament earlier if he wanted.