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[Skip997]

Told you lot

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Told you lot

Told us lot what?

[Skip997]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Told us lot what?

That the real Israeli government plan is to clear Gaza of Palestinians and claim it as part of Israeli.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

That the real Israeli government plan is to clear Gaza of Palestinians and claim it as part of Israeli.

That isn't the govt, it is some of the more right wing members at their own conference, bit like NatCons or ProCons or whateverelseCons.

 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

That isn't the govt, it is some of the more right wing members at their own conference, bit like NatCons or ProCons or whateverelseCons.

 

but reality is the Oct7th attacks probably help their cause, like the Israeli response helps the more extreme Hamas/Iranian destruction of Israel cause..extremists on both sides feed each other until it becomes a fight to the death and no compromise is possible. 

[kaosmark2]

32 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but reality is the Oct7th attacks probably help their cause, like the Israeli response helps the more extreme Hamas/Iranian destruction of Israel cause..extremists on both sides feed each other until it becomes a fight to the death and no compromise is possible. 

This is the exact problem. And the extremists equate everyone else as the extremists on the other side, which keeps on feeding the cycle.

Separating the population of Israel with their government, and the population of Palestine with Hamas is vital to counter the escalation.

[steviewevie]

Evil Plotters

 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, kaosmark2 said:

This is the exact problem. And the extremists equate everyone else as the extremists on the other side, which keeps on feeding the cycle.

Separating the population of Israel with their government, and the population of Palestine with Hamas is vital to counter the escalation.

which might mean proper international intervention. Israel public have been voting Likud/Netanyahu for a long time, they are not pro two state...and Gazans don't get to vote that often but when they did they voted for Hamas...so this has to be enforced unless the public on both sides can be persuaded to forgive and accept the other, and with all the death and destruction going on can't see that happening any time soon.

[Skip997]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

which might mean proper international intervention.

Long overdue

By about 70 years.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Long overdue

By about 70 years.

go back to 1948 and enforce borders of new Jewish state created by UN partition plan to prevent surrounding Arab countries invading?

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

go back to 1948 and enforce borders of new Jewish state created by UN partition plan to prevent surrounding Arab countries invading?

And at the same time prevent Israeli from encroaching on Palestinian lands 

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

And at the same time prevent Israeli from encroaching on Palestinian lands 

yes, well big failure by UN there. And the British.

[Skip997]

What's happened to Mr Fish?

He'd normally be all over my recent posts

[steviewevie]

RIP

 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

RIP

 

We are here again, it’s been a while 2 weeks since this last came out. Even in that tweet it says policies will be retained. 

[Neil]

6 hours ago, Skip997 said:

That the real Israeli government plan is to clear Gaza of Palestinians and claim it as part of Israeli.

so tell us the full plan an say why Israel gave Gaza up to the Palestinians in the first place.

[Neil]

3 hours ago, Skip997 said:

And at the same time prevent Israeli from encroaching on Palestinian lands 

there are no Palestinian lands? if there were there wouldn't be this sh*t!

[Neil]

liz truss f**ks a tory mp's mortgage.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-68133873

[steviewevie]

Looks like N Ireland going to get its devolved government back, some deal done with DUP. Sunak has had some successes in N Ireland, shame none of them vote Tory.

[fraybentos1]

8 hours ago, Ozanne said:

We are here again, it’s been a while 2 weeks since this last came out. Even in that tweet it says policies will be retained. 

You need the funding to make the outcome happen duh 

[steviewevie]

 

[stuie]

8 hours ago, Neil said:

liz truss f**ks a tory mp's mortgage.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-68133873

I'm glad Tories are feeling the pinch a bit too but he should be able to make ends meet with annual mortgage repayment of £24K from a £118K salary.   That's not quite at the level of needing a food bank.

[Crazyfool01]

14 hours ago, Skip997 said:

What's happened to Mr Fish?

He'd normally be all over my recent posts

Barry has broken the forum rules on multiple occasions and the moderation team has decided that a permanent ban was needed on this occasion

[steviewevie]

Reform down to 4% in this one..

 

[steviewevie]