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I’d imagine it’s different for various aspects of the festival. Something like the build will be an almost military level operation, with very carefully planned timing down to the smallest detail.

Other things, like when they decide to announce stuff, may be much more seat-of-their-pants, and may vary depending on artist schedules, news cycles, etc. 

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14 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

I think the original point was around whether Glastonbury and latitude do or don't coordinate schedules around eachother. 

You said they don't, I (jokingly) said that Melvin could probably just look at the release schedule and coordinate around that as he's on the board now. 

You then implied Glastonbury have no release schedule or any sort of significant planning on the comms side. 

I said that whilst Melvin probably can't access it there will definitely be a planned schedule of announcements. 

Followed by 2 pages of back and forth to lead us to the same point that Glastonbury definitely have a Comms plan in the run up to the festival, Melvin may or may not have access to it and it doesn't really impact on latitude announcements.

 

Good summary. 

You forgot the part where Neil confirmed Neil is correct.

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8 minutes ago, kalifire said:

I’d imagine it’s different for various aspects of the festival. Something like the build will be an almost military level operation, with very carefully planned timing down to the smallest detail.

Other things, like when they decide to announce stuff, may be much more seat-of-their-pants, and may vary depending on artist schedules, news cycles, etc. 

Yeah, they couldn't get away without a really detailed plan for that. They'd get shut down by the council if they weren't confident in it being safe.

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part of the allure with Glastonbury for me , is that it does feel like Emily and Mike (mate of mine) just try and throw it together.

 

it's not perfect, there seems like no plan, it doesn't feel polished, it  feels like you never know when or where , because they don't know when or where.

 

if we knew a date everything would be released , this topic would be pointless.

 

but here we are gibbering on 

 

long live how rough and unpolished it feels 

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3 hours ago, Leyrulion said:

think the original point was around whether Glastonbury and latitude do or don't coordinate schedules around eachother. 

the answer is, what i said,  that they don't

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3 hours ago, Leyrulion said:

You then implied Glastonbury have no release schedule or any sort of significant planning on the comms side. 

thats not what i was getting at. i was saying that for another festival to use glastonbury's announcements to time their own would require a level of organisation within glastonbury, which doesn't appear to exist.

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2 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

You often see little things with the announcements that make it look a little amateurish. Names missing, being added on an hour later, then taken off again. West Holts having the same lineup on their poster for two days...

All feels quite endearing.

its no so much amateurish, its that it doesn't have the same levels of professionalism and sophistication that other festivals have, but glastonbury doesn't need that, its got to the top doing things its own way.

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12 minutes ago, Neil said:

its no so much amateurish, its that it doesn't have the same levels of professionalism and sophistication that other festivals have, but glastonbury doesn't need that, its got to the top doing things its own way.

Thats part of the charm and appeal. Same way getting in and out can be a bit of a shambles.

But you don't have squaddie security guys shouting at you and treating you like a criminal like at other festivals as a result. 

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1 hour ago, Neil said:

its no so much amateurish, its that it doesn't have the same levels of professionalism and sophistication that other festivals have, but glastonbury doesn't need that, its got to the top doing things its own way.

/ starting first and not being in a shit location like Reading

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15 minutes ago, gfa said:

/ starting first and not being in a shit location like Reading

There's not much in it TBF

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The Reading Festival was originally known as the National Jazz Festival, which was conceived by Harold Pendleton (founder of the Marquee Club in London in 1958) and first held at Richmond Athletic Ground in 1961. Throughout the 1960s, the festival moved between several London and Home Counties sites, being held at Windsor Racecourse, Kempton Park, Sunbury and Plumpton, before reaching its permanent home at Reading in 1971. Since 1964, when the festival added a Friday evening session to the original Saturday and Sunday format, it has been staged over three days, with the sole exception of 1970 when a fourth day was added, running from Thursday 6 to Sunday 9 August.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_and_Leeds_Festivals#1960s

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The first festival at Worthy Farm was the Pop, Blues & Folk Festival, hosted by Michael Eavis on Saturday 19 September 1970, and attended by 1,500 people.

You could argue that Reading predates Glastonbury by 9 years if you take the National Jazz Festival as it's beginning.

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2 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

There's not much in it TBF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_and_Leeds_Festivals#1960s

You could argue that Reading predates Glastonbury by 9 years if you take the National Jazz Festival as it's beginning.

more the latter point

glastonbury was allowed to balloon to a silly size somehow that could just never happen nowadays and that got it international significance - imagine trying to launch a similar cut price booking festival now (let alone getting a 200k site)

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24 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

There's not much in it TBF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_and_Leeds_Festivals#1960s

You could argue that Reading predates Glastonbury by 9 years if you take the National Jazz Festival as it's beginning.

what you missed from the potted history was that it was run by the national jazz club, until mean fiddler sort-of stole it.

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23 minutes ago, gfa said:

more the latter point

glastonbury was allowed to balloon to a silly size somehow that could just never happen nowadays and that got it international significance - imagine trying to launch a similar cut price booking festival now (let alone getting a 200k site)

couldn't happen again, a lot of glastonbury wasfrom before there were licences and regulation for festivals, glastonbury established  the standards for festivals, via the 'pop code'

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9 minutes ago, Neil said:

The reason why Glastonbury is a bit shambolic is because it wasn't planned to grow this big, it just evolved. Because of that it doesn't have perfectly planned office systems. 

And it wouldn't work  nearly as well if it did.

The system of fiefdoms, which obviously can be a logistical nightmare at times, does still allow areas to be born, evolve, and to an extent die organically in a way that most other festivals don't have - certainly none anywhere near the scale of Glastonbury. Maybe Boomtown to an extent comes closest but that's still a lot more centrally controlled.

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27 minutes ago, Neil said:

The reason why Glastonbury is a bit shambolic is because it wasn't planned to grow this big, it just evolved. Because of that it doesn't have perfectly planned office systems. 

Think there’s much in this. I work for a large, but still family owned business. Everyone is highly professional and passionate but rigid systems aren’t there. I’ve worked for global corporate companies which were the exact opposite and systems and rulebooks ran everything. Glastonbury to an extent is still a family owned and run, cottage industry. That’s what makes it both special and feel a tiny bit amateur despite its size. Long may it continue. 

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35 minutes ago, Neil said:

The reason why Glastonbury is a bit shambolic is because it wasn't planned to grow this big, it just evolved. Because of that it doesn't have perfectly planned office systems. 

To be fair, they've been so busy with things like building their own solar farm and festival offices, water reservoirs, anaerobic digesters and super fences it's hardly surprising they haven't got round to using google docs yet.  

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20 minutes ago, stuie said:

To be fair, they've been so busy with things like building their own solar farm and festival offices, water reservoirs, anaerobic digesters and super fences it's hardly surprising they haven't got round to using google docs yet.  

they probably don't know google docs exists, when its the first thing that's come to your mind from what was said, which wasn't google docs

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27 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

8am poster drop. Here we go 👀

🤣🤣

 

Chance would be a fine thing after pages of squabbling again 😴

At the end of the day, they've obviously got a rough plan on when they want to release things otherwise all these artists wouldn't be keeping it secret would they. They've obviously been told to hang fire until 'such and such' conditions or dates. Melvin would know that rough plan and absolutely wouldn't drop his latitude lineup on the same day. It's not Rocket science. Shall we drop it now

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