Hugh Jass II Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Yup - rose tinted spectacles. Like racist aunties on Facebook sharing poems that lament the demise of corned beef and unsliced bread, the arch-nostalgists overlook all the positive progress and most of the things they keep banging on about missing still happen. Everyone seems to think the world was better when they were young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 We had rickets, rations and Archaos on the Pyramid Stage roof instead of Macca - but we were happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Archaos on the Pyramid Stage roof instead of Macca - but we were happy. Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: We had rickets, rations and Archaos on the Pyramid Stage roof instead of Macca - but we were happy. Most of Facebook can be boiled down to: "We never complained in the 70's. Everything was shit but at least minorities, women and gays knew their place..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 The one question that didn't get answered is did they make a profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, Skip997 said: Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time. Photoshop of El Pointo smoking a cigarette.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, dotdash79 said: The one question that didn't get answered is did they make a profit? Yeah 20m profit just in ticket sales apprently after all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvoram Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, The Nal said: Yeah 20m profit just in ticket sales apprently after all costs. Says 200k in the article linked here and I think also on one of the docs (can't remember which one for sure though.) I did find that hard to believe though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred quimby Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, dotdash79 said: The one question that didn't get answered is did they make a profit? Yea, odd that it was not covered after naking a point if it at several stages. Must have made a bomb. As The Nal says tickets alone were $20m profit. Then merch and that pay per view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, Alvoram said: Says 200k in the article linked here and I think also on one of the docs (can't remember which one for sure though.) I did find that hard to believe though... was 200k the number of tickets sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotdash79 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 I know they were set to make a profit, but what about the damage payouts and no doubt they were sued so had some payouts to make. but maybe they didn’t mention profits so they wouldn’t get sued now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvoram Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dotdash79 said: was 200k the number of tickets sold? No it says they only made $200k after all of the organising costs, additional costs of damage, and fines issued. EDIT: although I've just re read the article posted here and can't find it, so must have seen it somewhere else? Edited August 11, 2022 by Alvoram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 No way it was 200k. Dont forget about the 170,000 ish PPV sales that weekend at a minimum of $30 each. 5 millon ish mimimum they wouldve got a good cut from, the CD (went Gold) and DVD (went Platinum) sales after the event too. Earned a right few quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Day tickets for the Saturday at Reading (Arctic Monkeys) have been popping up on the Ticketmaster fan to fan exchange but they’re not cheap… £110 each after they add on the bullshit fees to the face value of around £95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Castlemorton seemed safer by comparison.. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/aug/10/ravers-having-it-large-at-castlemorton-1992-alan-lodges-best-photograph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvoram Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Nal said: No way it was 200k. Dont forget about the 170,000 ish PPV sales that weekend at a minimum of $30 each. 5 millon ish mimimum they wouldve got a good cut from, the CD (went Gold) and DVD (went Platinum) sales after the event too. Earned a right few quid. According to wiki In $28.8M in ticket sales $9M - $30M in TV revenue (estimates, no accurate figures available) Out $38M Production costs Then whatever the damages, fines, emergency security costs were... They only charged traders $500 per stall!!! (Can you imagine being able to buy a pitch at glasto for $500!!! Think I'd take my leftover stock being looted at the end for that!!!) If we're counting Merchandise since the festival though, you're probably right, they'd have earned a hell of a lot (there was actually an accusation that they let a lot of things happen to increase after fest sales of merch... But who knows... 🤷♂️) Edited August 11, 2022 by Alvoram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, Alvoram said: According to wiki In $28.8M in ticket sales $9M - $30M in TV revenue (estimates, no accurate figures available) Out $38M Production costs Then whatever the damages, fines, emergency security costs were... They only charged traders $500 per stall!!! (Can you imagine being able to buy a pitch at glasto for $500!!! Think I'd take my leftover stock being looted at the end for that!!!) If we're counting Merchandise since the festival though, you're probably right, they'd have earned a hell of a lot (there was actually an accusation that they let a lot of things happen to increase after fest sales of merch... But who knows... 🤷♂️) 22 years ago you probably could have gotten a stall pitch at Glastonbury for 500 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Alvoram said: They only charged traders $500 per stall!!! (Can you imagine being able to buy a pitch at glasto for $500!!! Think I'd take my leftover stock being looted at the end for that!!!) That doesn't tell the whole story though - any food/drink and many other items being sold had to be purchased from their designated supplier (hence the big containers full of stock that were looted and set on fire) - who with a captive market apparently hiked the wholesale prices so high that stalls charging $4 for a bottle of water made less profit on it than a regular store selling the same bottle for $1. And of course it was the traders who took the bulk of the anger and criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alvoram said: They only charged traders $500 per stall!!! (Can you imagine being able to buy a pitch at glasto for $500!!! Think I'd take my leftover stock being looted at the end for that!!!) However, the traders were made to buy from a company partially owned by the Woodstock promoter who sold goods at their prices, so the vendors had to buy a $3 water from them to then sell on for $4 to the crowd. https://www.spin.com/2019/07/woodstock-99-live-report/ *Nevermind, incident beat me to it. Edited August 11, 2022 by jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raincatcher Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 hours ago, philipsteak said: Think you'll find you get sent to prison just for making a corned beef sandwich these days. These days, if you say you’re English, you’ll get arrested and you’ll be thrown in jail, these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvoram Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 5 hours ago, incident said: That doesn't tell the whole story though - any food/drink and many other items being sold had to be purchased from their designated supplier (hence the big containers full of stock that were looted and set on fire) - who with a captive market apparently hiked the wholesale prices so high that stalls charging $4 for a bottle of water made less profit on it than a regular store selling the same bottle for $1. And of course it was the traders who took the bulk of the anger and criticism. 5 hours ago, jump said: However, the traders were made to buy from a company partially owned by the Woodstock promoter who sold goods at their prices, so the vendors had to buy a $3 water from them to then sell on for $4 to the crowd. https://www.spin.com/2019/07/woodstock-99-live-report/ *Nevermind, incident beat me to it. They weren't 'forced' to sell at that really, they wouldn't usually expect to make a whole dollar gp per bottle of water, back in 99, remembering that is sans tax too. That being said, $3 is insane, and next to that, the traders charging $4 doesn't seem unreasonable at all... I knew about the traders being forced to use the onsite wholesalers, but I thought the wholesalers were a 3rd party who'd paid for that exclusivity... Had no idea it was the same company. I'd bet that they hadn't included profits from that in the festival total. 🙈 Greedy bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 This is why its so nice Michael Lang died and that he didnt get to do Woodstock 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry bear Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Suprefan said: This is why its so nice Michael Lang died and that he didnt get to do Woodstock 50. It’s disappointing that the co-founder of the original ‘69 festival turned out to be far more a bread-head than dead-head, but I wouldn’t wish cancer and death on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, henry bear said: It’s disappointing that the co-founder of the original ‘69 festival turned out to be far more a bread-head than dead-head, but I wouldn’t wish cancer and death on him Well sorry if it rubs you the wrong way that Woodstock was the original peace and love festival. I guess Country Joe & The Fish aren't good enough to headline Glastonbury despite playing to 200,000 people on Yasgur's Farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padgey Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just watched it, typical Yanks can't handle a few beers and act like absolute pricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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