ticket tips and tricks Glastonbury 2024 resales

[gfa]

52 minutes ago, Havors said:

Yeah public VPN's are bad. 

I had success using my work VPN though as that just puts me through to use my work ISP which funny enough is the same one Seetickets use 😄 

We recently changed all our systems for work though and dont use VPN anymore so im just figuring out how seetickets handles netskope. I think im going to fail miserably on ticket day now haha 

Does this actually help and if so what does Seetickets use? Intrigued to see if mine is possibly the same as theirs if this is helpful 🙂 

[dotdash79]

Could the system be using something like a device MAC address to manage the DDOS checks?

[Havors]

4 minutes ago, p.pete said:

Sessions or IPs, I don't mind which is getting rate limited.  How come I can block the site on one browser and then move to a different browser and it's also blocked until enough time has passed such that both browsers are unblocked, whereas your (home?) computer seems to block one browser but allow the other to continue as normal?

That's why I ask how much above 60 hits per 60 seconds, just trying to understand it.  Is my crappy Virgin media router assigning the same IP&/Session to all of my browsers whereas something different is happening for you?

Has to be IP to be able to lock you out across different sessions. And its juts a constant rate of more than 60 per minute (1 per second once you reach the minute limit I think) to lock you out. If you hit the lockout then you have to wait 20 seconds or you just keep re-locking yourself out. 

[stuie]

7 minutes ago, p.pete said:

Sessions or IPs, I don't mind which is getting rate limited.  How come I can block the site on one browser and then move to a different browser and it's also blocked until enough time has passed such that both browsers are unblocked, whereas your (home?) computer seems to block one browser but allow the other to continue as normal?

That's why I ask how much above 60 hits per 60 seconds, just trying to understand it.  Is my crappy Virgin media router assigning the same IP&/Session to all of my browsers whereas something different is happening for you?

We're guessing that there's more than one server that you could land on.  If both your browsers land on the same server, both browsers might be blocked.

 

[Havors]

1 minute ago, dotdash79 said:

Could the system be using something like a device MAC address to manage the DDOS checks?

Could be. 

Could test that as well, use your laptop and phone both on same IP and see if locks you out on both? 

[t0paz]

3 minutes ago, Havors said:

Could be. 

Could test that as well, use your laptop and phone both on same IP and see if locks you out on both? 

That’s what I tested yesterday. All browsers locked up on the laptop and phone was fine

[Havors]

Just now, t0paz said:

That’s what I tested yesterday. All browsers locked up on the laptop and phone was fine

Very interesting. Could be MAC address then. 

[stuie]

I've just tried again a few times and had different results each time. 

It definitely depends on the server you land on. 

First test, locked out on Chrome, Edge and iphone on same wifi also locked out

Second test, locked out on Chrome and Edge and iphone didn't lock out. 

 

[p.pete]

7 minutes ago, t0paz said:

That’s what I tested yesterday. All browsers locked up on the laptop and phone was fine

That's what I saw yesterday too - phone on the same wifi

[incident]

50 minutes ago, Havors said:

Its session based, uses your token I think. 

Easy to test. Open a chrome window and firefox window... bash away on one. Only that one will be locked. 

That is sometimes true. And it's sometimes not.

[Havors]

3 minutes ago, incident said:

That is sometimes true. And it's sometimes not.

Maybe we are all just overthinking it? 😄 

Just have a couple of devices and refresh often but not too fast. Simple. 

If your lucks in your lucks in 😄 

[gfa]

7 minutes ago, Havors said:

Maybe we are all just overthinking it? 😄 

Just have a couple of devices and refresh often but not too fast. Simple. 

If your lucks in your lucks in 😄 

There's 58 pages of this thread of people trying to increase their chances - instead of settling!

Edited October 20, 2022 by gfa

[t0paz]

17 minutes ago, stuie said: 

First test, locked out on Chrome, Edge and iphone on same wifi also locked out

 

I’ve just managed to reproduce that twice. Only when really going for it in the refreshes though.

So maybe there is one limit per device and a different one per IP?

[incident]

15 minutes ago, Havors said:

Maybe we are all just overthinking it? 😄 

Just have a couple of devices and refresh often but not too fast. Simple. 

If your lucks in your lucks in 😄 

I think there's a lot of overthinking going on.

As I said (well, maybe not this directly) - I've done enough experimenting to be certain that it's not purely Browser Session based, but equally certain that it's not purely IP address either. My guess is that there's some form of Browser or Device Fingerprinting going on, but I can't prove that and I don't know exactly how it'd manifest.

At which point I decided I wasn't going to bother worrying about it anymore, and instead set myself up so that I wasn't going to trigger the limit regardless of what factors are in play.

[p.pete]

10 minutes ago, gfa said:

There's 58 pages of this thread of people trying to increase their chances - instead of settling!

Never settle!  There's also at least one similar thread started for every sale ever - That's a lot of productivity that I think the government just doesn't give us enough credit for.

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, p.pete said:

Never settle!  There's also at least one similar thread started for every sale ever - That's a lot of productivity that I think the government just doesn't give us enough credit for.

yeah ive set them up for the last few festivals with the aim of confusing myself further , it works every time 

[p.pete]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

yeah ive set them up for the last few festivals with the aim of confusing myself further , it works every time 

There's a very clear demand - I enjoy being baffled at least 🙂 

[leath02]

For all the speculating and things we try and do to tip the odds in our favour, there will be newbies logging on for the very first time on Nov 3rd / 6th and bag tickets and wonder what all the fuss is about

[t0paz]

4 minutes ago, leath02 said:

For all the speculating and things we try and do to tip the odds in our favour, there will be newbies logging on for the very first time on Nov 3rd / 6th and bag tickets and wonder what all the fuss is about

Yeah, I do always wonder about the people who are done by 9:05 and go about their day. Must be an odd experience.

[gfa]

42 minutes ago, leath02 said:

For all the speculating and things we try and do to tip the odds in our favour, there will be newbies logging on for the very first time on Nov 3rd / 6th and bag tickets and wonder what all the fuss is about

Thats what our lot was like for this years resale!

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

Sessions, cookies, Macs, IPs, VPNs, refresh rates, DDOS checks...

 

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

I was safe in the knowledge that I could open three different browers with one link open on each, allowing me to refresh as I go between the three, now I don't even know what I'm doing after reading the last few pages.

[Fred Zepplin]

I'm assuming phones on the same network and contract trying simultaneously will be ok and not get locked out? Will be me on the computer and on the phone and my wife on her phone. We have a joint contract on the phones   

[Mark Greensmith]

On 10/18/2022 at 2:19 PM, leath02 said:

lol what's the URL for this 

Wait so what does this mean? Do I not want to see this page when going for the tickets?

On 10/18/2022 at 2:47 PM, leath02 said:

voila

 

[scatteredscreens]

4 minutes ago, Mark Greensmith said:

Wait so what does this mean? Do I not want to see this page when going for the tickets?

 

it's just the 'holding page' as we call it. when the server is too busy dealing with requests for tickets that it won't let you on to buy one. to be honest it's fairly ok because it means you're at least hitting the server. in 2018 I just had the webpage hanging so i wasnt even getting any requests in.