2024 Festival

[jj200]

Can update the setimes 

[Benj]

6 hours ago, BenG92 said:

Bring back the clashes! Bring back the choice!

 

No, not like that! 

Thats the worst one for me thus far. Can't miss The Oozes, Kid Bruswick sounds v interesting in a BMTH with a modern twist way.   Can't find anything Disgusting Sisters have ever done on any site, so assume they're an industry plant type but a must see on that name alone though

Edited June 13 by Benj

[Benj]

On 2/28/2024 at 2:19 PM, Benj said:

Traditionally they’d have had VERY different fan bases. 

20+ years on when nostalgia is probably the biggest selling point for both acts maybe less so.

When Blink last played and in 2010, there were huge amounts of people who were not into them at all and would have been very happy with a Prodigy alternative. I suspect there’s still a lot of the ‘older crowd’, Gallagher fans etc, who think Blink are sh*t and will be very happy with the Prodigy Alternative to end their night

I’d like to see both but appreciate the fact that they’re giving choice to their audience again once more.

The reality otherwise and last year would simply have been no Prodigy on the bill at all

 

On 2/29/2024 at 6:15 AM, Benj said:

They’ll deffo be clashing. They’re not wasting the dark closing the Chevron early

They’re obviously trying to add and create a serious dance reputation for the festival. 

Having bona fide big dance headliners is part of that. Having dance fans have to end their night at Blink or Jorja Smith is not

 

 

7 hours ago, BenG92 said:

Bring back the clashes! Bring back the choice!

 

No, not like that! 

YUP.... its exactly what's needed, which I said way back in Feb.  CLASHES ARE GOOD

Prodigy vs Blink is what all festivals should be aiming for...  If you're not having to choose between two acts at least half the day the line up is mid at best. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't, having to make the choise is better than one of the acts not being there at all....


I was wrong about them closing the Chevron early though. Looks like theyre doing it on the Fred night, which is prob fair enough if its really not suited to bands

Edited June 13 by Benj

[Andre91]

4 hours ago, Benj said:

Thats the worst one for me thus far. Can't miss The Oozes, Kid Bruswick sounds v interesting in a BMTH with a modern twist way.   Can't find anything Disgusting Sisters have ever done on any site, so assume they're an industry plant type but a must see on that name alone though

I’ve seen Kid Brunswick before and he’s nothing special live. 

[Benj]

3 hours ago, Andre91 said:

I’ve seen Kid Brunswick before and he’s nothing special live. 

The Oozes and end of disgusting sisters it is then

[sacred shape]

9 hours ago, Benj said:

 Can't find anything Disgusting Sisters have ever done on any site, so assume they're an industry plant type but a must see on that name alone though

 

No songs on Spotify, super professional Instagram, somehow supporting TDCC and playing R&L. This bio reads like ChatGPT wrote it:

 

'Jules & Josie are two sisters who split their time between making music and being disgusting. The c**ty pop rock band formed in March 2024 and they have recently played their first ever gig – a sold out event at the Sebright Arms in London. With relatable, provocative and funny lyrics, catchy melodies and quirky dance moves, their show is one you don’t want to miss!'

[Chad888]

25 minutes ago, sacred shape said:

 

No songs on Spotify, super professional Instagram, somehow supporting TDCC and playing R&L. This bio reads like ChatGPT wrote it:

 

'Jules & Josie are two sisters who split their time between making music and being disgusting. The c**ty pop rock band formed in March 2024 and they have recently played their first ever gig – a sold out event at the Sebright Arms in London. With relatable, provocative and funny lyrics, catchy melodies and quirky dance moves, their show is one you don’t want to miss!'

 

So some business men saw the success Wet Leg had, and tried to manufacture a clone. Tacked them onto their other acts to give them credibility, and will no doubt force Radio 1 to play them on their C-list line-up just so impressionable people will have heard their name and them get mainstream airtime, and assume they are a bigger name.

 

I do hate it when suits that work for banks, or business studies majors get involved in / comandeer the direction art takes, diverting the natural flow ... but nature always wins. They will vanish into obscurity in a year when they get found out. They will just get popped into the 'Yungblud closet' after he got found out and everybody stopped caring.

[Dukey]

Secret set gap R1 stage 12pm Leeds Sunday / Reading Saturday? 

[Benj]

1 hour ago, Chad888 said:

 

So some business men saw the success Wet Leg had, and tried to manufacture a clone. Tacked them onto their other acts to give them credibility, and will no doubt force Radio 1 to play them on their C-list line-up just so impressionable people will have heard their name and them get mainstream airtime, and assume they are a bigger name.

 

I do hate it when suits that work for banks, or business studies majors get involved in / comandeer the direction art takes, diverting the natural flow ... but nature always wins. They will vanish into obscurity in a year when they get found out. They will just get popped into the 'Yungblud closet' after he got found out and everybody stopped caring.

So they’ll be having their own festival at MK Bowl in about 6 years?

 

Will definitely catch them now then

[glastorome]

On 6/12/2024 at 6:15 AM, northernangel said:

 

I have to say, fairplay but at currently £195 for a day ticket it's horrendous! At £125 for a day ticket it was horrendous!, but i do think it's the strongest further the main stage options....forget the other stages that's the new generation of kids which is fine, they like what they like. 

 

But we are taking about Reading Festival and that a top two of LDR and Fred Again who does have a very high percentage of djing form in his set, Raye and very much a dj on the second stage outselling Blink 182, Gerry Cinnamon, The Prodigy, Liam Gallagher, Catfish, TDCC and 21 Savage at Reading Festival. That rings to me where this festival has gone. They have also booked Pendulum 4th down on the main stage which is absolutely awful spot for them, they were crap in daylight at Download.

We paid £115 a ticket on presale, so for Goddard, Fontaines DC, Raye, Lana and Fred Again against what you can pay for a single arena gig these days its good value IMO. 

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, glastorome said:

We paid £115 a ticket on presale, so for Goddard, Fontaines DC, Raye, Lana and Fred Again against what you can pay for a single arena gig these days its good value IMO. 

That's presale though. Doesn't really matter compared to an arena because you're out of any rubbish weather there so it's not really a comparison. Arena with those bands will also play longer sets etc. I'm mean it's horses for course, for the distance for me to travel I don't think I would even look for a cheap ticket.

[glastorome]

24 minutes ago, northernangel said:

That's presale though. Doesn't really matter compared to an arena because you're out of any rubbish weather there so it's not really a comparison. Arena with those bands will also play longer sets etc. I'm mean it's horses for course, for the distance for me to travel I don't think I would even look for a cheap ticket.

Of course its comparable to me personally price wise. Im going to see Liam Gallagher on Sunday in Manchester, I payed £90 for that, due to the fact its DM which is my favourite Oasis album. 

 

Thats £90 for one act I like compared to an extra £25 for 5 acts I like at Leeds. Look at it this way, its £23 an act and I might even see more so for me its a bargain. 

 

[northernangel]

15 minutes ago, glastorome said:

Of course its comparable to me personally price wise. Im going to see Liam Gallagher on Sunday in Manchester, I payed £90 for that, due to the fact its DM which is my favourite Oasis album. 

 

Thats £90 for one act I like compared to an extra £25 for 5 acts I like at Leeds. Look at it this way, its £23 an act and I might even see more so for me its a bargain. 

 

Yes but you're inside, no chance of bad weather there so it's a different ball game. If you're comparing solely money wise 5 acts vs one yes but if that 2as the straight case then these festivals would be able charging several hundred for a weekend by the time you add it all up.

[Benj]

6 hours ago, glastorome said:

We paid £115 a ticket on presale, so for Goddard, Fontaines DC, Raye, Lana and Fred Again against what you can pay for a single arena gig these days its good value IMO. 

I think 125 is definitely decent value if a day falls right for you. Reading is a far better prospect as a day visitor now than as a weekend ticket, where I think many will struggle to find the value on all 3 days

[glastorome]

10 hours ago, Benj said:

I think 125 is definitely decent value if a day falls right for you. Reading is a far better prospect as a day visitor now than as a weekend ticket, where I think many will struggle to find the value on all 3 days

 

Totally agree. Considering the price for stadium gigs and some arena gigs, if you can go to a festival for a day and see 5-10 acts its a bargain in comparison. 

 

There's a city festival in my hometown beginning of August, proper indie landfill, very small scale, off to the first night as Ocean Colour Scene are headlining, tickets cost £70 which I thought was steep, it was my wife who pointed out we're seeing 3 bands that night so its not even £25 a band, so thats the way I look at these things now. 

[Benj]

2 hours ago, glastorome said:

 

Totally agree. Considering the price for stadium gigs and some arena gigs, if you can go to a festival for a day and see 5-10 acts its a bargain in comparison. 

 

There's a city festival in my hometown beginning of August, proper indie landfill, very small scale, off to the first night as Ocean Colour Scene are headlining, tickets cost £70 which I thought was steep, it was my wife who pointed out we're seeing 3 bands that night so its not even £25 a band, so thats the way I look at these things now. 

Yup, there are a few cons though, likely smaller set lengths and apathetic crowds killing the atmosphere, esp when the front it just full of fans waiting for Lana Del Rey!

I saw bleachers play for an hour 20 on Monday, in front of am adoring crowd that new every word. The clashfinder suggests they're getting 35 minutes at Reading, in front of those Del Rey stans.
 

[gfa]

On 6/13/2024 at 3:03 AM, Benj said:

 

 

YUP.... its exactly what's needed, which I said way back in Feb.  CLASHES ARE GOOD

Prodigy vs Blink is what all festivals should be aiming for...  If you're not having to choose between two acts at least half the day the line up is mid at best. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't, having to make the choise is better than one of the acts not being there at all....


I was wrong about them closing the Chevron early though. Looks like theyre doing it on the Fred night, which is prob fair enough if its really not suited to bands

This is a mad comment (bold)

 

Festivals should aim to have two proper headline acts that people will be excited for on at the same time 100% - however not with this amount of overlap which just pisses people off. Its fine to split a group up for headliner time but it shouldn't make people want to split themselves in half!

Prodigy should be against LG or the stage should end earlier so they can be against the end of Gerry (ala MSE setup).

[gfa]

 

Past 5pm its very solid every day but the daytime is just shocking

 

Dance stages being full of Radio 1 djs and other shite doesn't help!

[Benj]

1 hour ago, gfa said:

This is a mad comment (bold)

 

Festivals should aim to have two proper headline acts that people will be excited for on at the same time 100% - however not with this amount of overlap which just pisses people off. Its fine to split a group up for headliner time but it shouldn't make people want to split themselves in half!

Prodigy should be against LG or the stage should end earlier so they can be against the end of Gerry (ala MSE setup).

 

There will be a huge amount of people going who don’t like Blink 

 

There will be a huge amount of people who don’t like the prodigy

 

Just because they are two big bands and a lot of people who like both being vocal about it, doesn’t mean it’s bad…although there is certainly an argument given the paucity of the rest of the line up they shouldn’t waste two big names like that

 

The fact is Festivals SHOULD without doubt be aiming for Two acts closing the night that people WANT to see, the fact you think they don’t is a very sad indicator of what Reading has become, there is not enough value there without spreading it out

 

Imagine Glastonbury closing the other stage early so that people who like Disclosure and Coldplay can see both acts 🤣

 

The LG comment is mad btw, there will be way more people into LG and Prodigy than Blink and Prodigy. Indeed I imagine the booking strategy was to try and get back 40 somehting types on weekend tickets

 

 

 

Edited June 17 by Benj

[gfa]

13 minutes ago, Benj said:

 

There will be a huge amount of people going who don’t like Blink 

 

There will be a huge amount of people who don’t like the prodigy

 

Just because they are two big bands and a lot of people who like both being vocal about it, doesn’t mean it’s bad…although there is certainly an argument given the paucity of the rest of the line up they shouldn’t waste two big names like that

 

The fact is Festivals SHOULD without doubt be aiming for Two acts closing the night that people WANT to see, the fact you think they don’t is a very sad indicator of what Reading has become, there is not enough value there without spreading it out

 

Imagine Glastonbury closing the other stage early so that people who like Disclosure and Coldplay can see both acts 🤣

 

The LG comment is mad btw, there will be way more people into LG and Prodigy than Blink and Prodigy. Indeed I imagine the booking strategy was to try and get back 40 somehting types on weekend tickets

 

 

 

Read what I said. Its not what they've done its the way they have done it.

 

"Festivals should aim to have two proper headline acts that people will be excited for on at the same time 100%"

 

Honestly despite them both being dance audience wise i'd maybe argue they probably make the most sense against fred. They clearly don't work well against anyone - would have been great against say a Post Malone or Billie style act.

 

They should have spent the money on a rapper really as much as I like the prodigy or a dance act for a younger audience like C&S. Makes far more sense - plenty of younger people will not give a sh*t about blink or prodigy i think.

[Benj]

4 minutes ago, gfa said:

Read what I said. Its not what they've done its the way they have done it.

 

"Festivals should aim to have two proper headline acts that people will be excited for on at the same time 100%"

 

Honestly despite them both being dance audience wise i'd maybe argue they probably make the most sense against fred. They clearly don't work well against anyone - would have been great against say a Post Malone or Billie style act.

 

They should have spent the money on a rapper really as much as I like the prodigy or a dance act for a younger audience like C&S. Makes far more sense - plenty of younger people will not give a sh*t about blink or prodigy i think.

Sorry. Fair point then but you completely  missed the point of mine then.

 

Blink and Prodigy are two great headline options that all festivals should be aiming for…

 

…not without providing options for others too. Only just noticed that EVERY OTHER stage ends early that night 🤣

 

f**king hell. Seriously what are they doing forcing those choices on the kids.

 

Your clashfinder post shows the massive scarcity of choice

 

You’re interested in seeing 22 acts all weekend. There was 20 plus on the Friday alone in 2019. 5 headline choices vs 2 🤣

 

 

[gfa]

36 minutes ago, Benj said:

Sorry. Fair point then but you completely  missed the point of mine then.

 

Blink and Prodigy are two great headline options that all festivals should be aiming for…

 

…not without providing options for others too. Only just noticed that EVERY OTHER stage ends early that night 🤣

 

f**king hell. Seriously what are they doing forcing those choices on the kids.

 

Your clashfinder post shows the massive scarcity of choice

 

You’re interested in seeing 22 acts all weekend. There was 20 plus on the Friday alone in 2019. 5 headline choices vs 2 🤣

 

 

Ah sorry my clashfinder was misleading - i selected stuff possible to see (except an extra headliner on 2 days) not everything i like

[Benj]

2 hours ago, gfa said:

Ah sorry my clashfinder was misleading - i selected stuff possible to see (except an extra headliner on 2 days) not everything i like

It still chronically highlights the paucity of headline options for people now

 

If there was no Prodigy clash, EVERYONE is forced to watch Blink 🤣

 

Hopefully they’ll be a few additions that push people up. The fact that times are out may mean this isn’t going to happen though

 

 

 

 

[gfa]

4 minutes ago, Benj said:

It still chronically highlights the paucity of headline options for people now

 

If there was no Prodigy clash, EVERYONE is forced to watch Blink 🤣

 

Hopefully they’ll be a few additions that push people up. The fact that times are out may mean this isn’t going to happen though

 

 

 

 

I meant someone more suitable but of a similar size should have been booked to clash with Blink

[Benj]

19 hours ago, gfa said:

I meant someone more suitable but of a similar size should have been booked to clash with Blink

They’ve kind of shot themselves in the foot having a large dance stage as the second stage as there’s a limited number of acts they can book in that slot.

 

Although it’s a scene I know nothing about really. Who’s Prodigy/ Skrillex type size who could have played there?

 

Disclosure?

Chemical Bros?

David Guetta 

Steve Aoki

(are those two way too big?)

chainsmokers?

 

I’ve got no idea.  It almost feels like they’ve just put it in place for the after hours stuff, although Leeds didn’t really need it. 
 

It will be v interesting to see how it goes down overall