2024 Headliners

[Avalon_Fields]

6 hours ago, mufcok said:

I haven't been in this thread for a little while, so apologies if this has been covered - but Blur seem to be cracking on touring this album, think it's South America at the end of the year?

Surely Emily will be knocking on their door... 

Yes, including this Mexico festival, a few names on here we may see next year

[wghennessy]

1 hour ago, northernangel said:

No, no it is isn't. Widely accepted by who? It isn't as bad as After Laughter but not much could be. Sales from This Is Why make your claim laughable. I don't care what you've got from Spotify stats.

Nor Katy Perry or Miley were selling out stadiums, though Miley would headline now. She has grown significantly in stature since then.

Surely you arent comparing sales of an album in 2023 to an album from 2013 in terms of sales?

Who buys albums anymore? You might not care about spotify streams but they are absolutely relevant.

Oh and sales doesnt mean its a good product.

[Superscally]

10 hours ago, northernangel said:

No, no it is isn't. Widely accepted by who? It isn't as bad as After Laughter but not much could be. Sales from This Is Why make your claim laughable. I don't care what you've got from Spotify stats.

Nor Katy Perry or Miley were selling out stadiums, though Miley would headline now. She has grown significantly in stature since then.

I just went to check. Metacritic. Pretty objective, that.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Superscally said:

I just went to check. Metacritic. Pretty objective, that.

Bad Bunny is objectively good, then!

[northernangel]

15 hours ago, wghennessy said:

Surely you arent comparing sales of an album in 2023 to an album from 2013 in terms of sales?

Who buys albums anymore? You might not care about spotify streams but they are absolutely relevant.

Oh and sales doesnt mean its a good product.

By sales, I meant ticket sales quite clearly. Forget products from a band, Both of the artists in question are without a doubt selling tours at their peak in a period where it is the hardest financially.

I don't need to compare sales to know that going based on spotify, which I don't say is completely useless but it's easy to access songs. Also going based on that, one one songs from This is Why features on people's playlists....way down the line. 8.6m compared to songs featuring from Riot!, Self Entitled and BNE way up the line. If we then switch over to popularity, it is much the same sequence. 2013's Self Titled is definitely their best album since BNE an an overall popularity, even I am happy to listen to 5 songs from that album and went to that tour.

As for P!nk, I don't know enough of her stuff to debate it.

6 hours ago, Superscally said:

I just went to check. Metacritic. Pretty objective, that.

So you used an aggregate critic, how is that different from just different people's views. Spotify if you want to know what people are listening to will tell you all you need to know....and the hint it, it is not This is Why.

[Neil]

On 9/23/2023 at 11:10 AM, stuie said:

Pink is the new Foals on efests! 

at least my ears can tolerate foals. i've seen pink and she didn't impress me much.

[Crazyfool01]

21 minutes ago, Neil said:

at least my ears can tolerate foals. i've seen pink and she didn't impress me much.

surely that's Shania Twain ? 

[Superscally]

2 hours ago, northernangel said:

By sales, I meant ticket sales quite clearly. Forget products from a band, Both of the artists in question are without a doubt selling tours at their peak in a period where it is the hardest financially.

I don't need to compare sales to know that going based on spotify, which I don't say is completely useless but it's easy to access songs. Also going based on that, one one songs from This is Why features on people's playlists....way down the line. 8.6m compared to songs featuring from Riot!, Self Entitled and BNE way up the line. If we then switch over to popularity, it is much the same sequence. 2013's Self Titled is definitely their best album since BNE an an overall popularity, even I am happy to listen to 5 songs from that album and went to that tour.

As for P!nk, I don't know enough of her stuff to debate it.

So you used an aggregate critic, how is that different from just different people's views. Spotify if you want to know what people are listening to will tell you all you need to know....and the hint it, it is not This is Why.

Numbers of people listening to a record does not tell you how good a record is. 

[Superscally]

2 hours ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:

Bad Bunny is objectively good, then!

Ha, I've not checked. This amuses me. You don't understand the rules though. If I like something and metacritic says it's good, it is. If I disagree, metacritic opinion is invalid. Tbf, the one review of BB I checked, user score was only 6.0 

- I'll take that 😉😘

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, Superscally said:

Numbers of people listening to a record does not tell you how good a record is. 

Number of people not listening to a record, tells you though!

[gfa]

22 hours ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Yes, including this Mexico festival, a few names on here we may see next year

this lineup is just ridiculous

easy contender for best of the past 10 years

[Superscally]

26 minutes ago, gfa said:

this lineup is just ridiculous

easy contender for best of the past 10 years

Yeah, I'm desperately trying to piss my missus off so much that she divorces me and I can go

[wghennessy]

8 hours ago, northernangel said:

By sales, I meant ticket sales quite clearly. Forget products from a band, Both of the artists in question are without a doubt selling tours at their peak in a period where it is the hardest financially.

I don't need to compare sales to know that going based on spotify, which I don't say is completely useless but it's easy to access songs. Also going based on that, one one songs from This is Why features on people's playlists....way down the line. 8.6m compared to songs featuring from Riot!, Self Entitled and BNE way up the line. If we then switch over to popularity, it is much the same sequence. 2013's Self Titled is definitely their best album since BNE an an overall popularity, even I am happy to listen to 5 songs from that album and went to that tour.

As for P!nk, I don't know enough of her stuff to debate it.

So you used an aggregate critic, how is that different from just different people's views. Spotify if you want to know what people are listening to will tell you all you need to know....and the hint it, it is not This is Why.

" It isn't as bad as After Laughter but not much could be. Sales from This Is Why make your claim laughable. I don't care what you've got from Spotify stats."

 

So "clear" you meant ticket sales 🙄

[gazzared]

11 hours ago, Superscally said:

Yeah, I'm desperately trying to piss my missus off so much that she divorces me and I can go

You should've gone the game then 🤣🤣🤣 @grayzer1said thanks very much for the ticket👏👏👏

Edited September 25, 2023 by gazzared

[northernangel]

14 hours ago, wghennessy said:

" It isn't as bad as After Laughter but not much could be. Sales from This Is Why make your claim laughable. I don't care what you've got from Spotify stats."

 

So "clear" you meant ticket sales 🙄

Do they?, so you're comparing sales of an album that's had 6 years compared to 6 months and where the sales of music are these days. After Laughter reaching 6 and This Is Why reaching 2 is a big difference. You could bring Riot! etc reach way lower into the conversation but given the sales numbers as well, I think it's clear that's a physical buying period.

The difference if you bring spotify stats into it, that music is there ready to listen to at the touch of a button and not the spending needed on a record.

I said ticket sales is what matter from the very start lol, and it is not necessarily that people are buying tickets to watch the newer material. Their first 

[Neil]

17 hours ago, Superscally said:

Yeah, I'm desperately trying to piss my missus off so much that she divorces me and I can go

mexico isn't so wide you'd be back quick 😛 

[matrainertje]

On 9/24/2023 at 8:12 PM, gfa said:

this lineup is just ridiculous

easy contender for best of the past 10 years

No lineup will beat that Primavera 2022 double weekend thing. 

[roughbloke]

On 9/23/2023 at 7:40 PM, northernangel said:

No, no it is isn't. Widely accepted by who? It isn't as bad as After Laughter but not much could be. Sales from This Is Why make your claim laughable. I don't care what you've got from Spotify stats.

Nor Katy Perry or Miley were selling out stadiums, though Miley would headline now. She has grown significantly in stature since then.

Miley Cyrus would not headline Glastonbury. 

[northernangel]

1 minute ago, roughbloke said:

Miley Cyrus would not headline Glastonbury. 

I bet you she would come very close, Flowers was massive, she isn't just a novelty act now.

[gfa]

14 hours ago, matrainertje said:

No lineup will beat that Primavera 2022 double weekend thing. 

TITP 2011

[stuie]

11 hours ago, northernangel said:

I bet you she would come very close, Flowers was massive, she isn't just a novelty act now.

She might be sub, yes.  Not headliner. 

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

She might be sub, yes.  Not headliner. 

agreed. 🙂 

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, gfa said:

TITP 2011

i was there, forget the lineup now. who was it?

[matrainertje]

8 minutes ago, gfa said:

TITP 2011

Coldplay and Foos are not my cup at all. 

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

i was there, forget the lineup now. who was it?

Just had a look.

It's dreadful. Three good acts on the main stage across the weekend