2023 line up thread

[paulwa]

On 4/6/2023 at 8:26 PM, benali said:

Beige Banquet are a good watch live. I've not heard of the other 2 so will be checking them out.

Listening to them now. Good up-tight angular post-punk sound. Like it. 

Had a good listen to Jessica's Brother last night. They sound great. Very obvious Neil Young influences and they have the Wave Pictures drummer in the band. Must see!

[RedRockRick]

11 minutes ago, paulwa said:

Listening to them now. Good up-tight angular post-punk sound. Like it. 

Had a good listen to Jessica's Brother last night. They sound great. Very obvious Neil Young influences and they have the Wave Pictures drummer in the band. Must see!

Pete Paphides did a big splurge on how much he liked Jessica's Brother and how good their new (only?) album was. Naturally, I've lost the link.

[paulwa]

On 4/12/2023 at 10:15 AM, RedRockRick said:

Pete Paphides did a big splurge on how much he liked Jessica's Brother and how good their new (only?) album was. Naturally, I've lost the link.

 

[paulwa]

That seems to be a 2018 album and they had another in 2021: 

 

[SweepingTheNation]

In an ongoing example of acts becoming bigger deals after the announcement, Kara Jackson gets a Pitchfork Best New Music

[Memory Man]

Balance payments creeping up on us - by 5pm on Weds 3rd May

feels quite early to have to be paid up in full still almost 4 months prior

wish i hadnt bought as theres bound to be cheaper tickets closer to the time, but someone has to pay to keep it going 🙂

Edited April 18, 2023 by Memory Man

[robith]

11 hours ago, Memory Man said:

Balance payments creeping up on us - by 5pm on Weds 3rd May

feels quite early to have to be paid up in full still almost 4 months prior

wish i hadnt bought as theres bound to be cheaper tickets closer to the time, but someone has to pay to keep it going 🙂

yeah weirdly nervy about paying up cos if I can't go I reckon I'll be lucky to get a ton back for it

[AboutToday]

25 minutes ago, robith said:

yeah weirdly nervy about paying up cos if I can't go I reckon I'll be lucky to get a ton back for it

One of our group paid £80 for their ticket last year, the week before. 

Given that the line up is weaker this year than last, at least in terms of the subs and immediate undercard, I wouldn't be surprised to see resales dip closer to £50.

[RedRockRick]

1 hour ago, AboutToday said:

One of our group paid £80 for their ticket last year, the week before. 

Given that the line up is weaker this year than last, at least in terms of the subs and immediate undercard, I wouldn't be surprised to see resales dip closer to £50.

Yes, maybe, but black market car park tickets will be over £150 by then.

[Wildhog]

Saw Nina Nastasia on Sunday, her time away hasn't changed her ability to keep an audience silent in awe. Already my festival highlight! 

[paulwa]

I really like the few songs on Spotify by The Prize and if they don’t fill out their set with Buzzcocks covers I’ll be very disappointed. 

[Memory Man]

The ticket giveaway on social media reminding you that yes they really have booked unknown mortal orchestra to headline who cant even sell out a 1000 capacity venue on their own tour

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by Memory Man

[Memory Man]

On 4/21/2023 at 8:17 AM, paulwa said:

I really like the few songs on Spotify by The Prize and if they don’t fill out their set with Buzzcocks covers I’ll be very disappointed. 

Enjoying these!

[SweepingTheNation]

4 minutes ago, Memory Man said:

The ticket giveaway on social media reminding you that yes they really have booked unknown mortal orchestra to headline who cant even sell out a 1000 capacity venue on their own tour

 

They've sold out one of two nights at the end of May at the Troxy, which is 3,100 capacity.

Regardless, I'm pretty certain that UMO were booked to headline Garden or sub Angel Olsen on Woods before she said she'd rather play Garden. They did similar sized venues on their last tours and according to their album press release UMO are headlining the Friday which would correspond with Olsen's handful of UK dates before the festival.

Also, have they done this competition before, because they refer to it as if it was a regular offer but I can't remember it.

[domjon]

2 hours ago, SweepingTheNation said:

They've sold out one of two nights at the end of May at the Troxy, which is 3,100 capacity.

Regardless, I'm pretty certain that UMO were booked to headline Garden or sub Angel Olsen on Woods before she said she'd rather play Garden. They did similar sized venues on their last tours and according to their album press release UMO are headlining the Friday which would correspond with Olsen's handful of UK dates before the festival.

Also, have they done this competition before, because they refer to it as if it was a regular offer but I can't remember it.

They have I think, pretty sure I won it once. I definitely won a handful of gig tickets anyway, pretty sure it was eotr

[Memory Man]

I think youre right that olsen is in reality the headliner (specifically asking to play garden) and UMO are just playing the woods stage that day.

outside london none of their dates are sold out but we are where we are

[noisenoiseandmorenoise]

This isn't a giveaway for festival tickets (which they also do), it is a giveaway for tickets for touring bands playing at the festival. Which is something they have done since the early days of supporting acts like The Low Anthem and Charlie Parr.

Given only a page ago I was accused of elitism, I think the reverse elitism of shitting on touring bands (who don't have label heft or marketing budget) for not selling out is pretty cheap.

Elitism alert: Looking at bands touring equivalent venues as UMO and who are selling out, I look forward to Razorlight and the Goo Goo Dolls heading next year. Make it happen Simon, it is what the festival fans are looking for.

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by noisenoiseandmorenoise

[Thruxton Appleby]

On 4/25/2023 at 7:45 AM, noisenoiseandmorenoise said:

This isn't a giveaway for festival tickets (which they also do), it is a giveaway for tickets for touring bands playing at the festival. Which is something they have done since the early days of supporting acts like The Low Anthem and Charlie Parr.

Given only a page ago I was accused of elitism, I think the reverse elitism of shitting on touring bands (who don't have label heft or marketing budget) for not selling out is pretty cheap.

Elitism alert: Looking at bands touring equivalent venues as UMO and who are selling out, I look forward to Razorlight and the Goo Goo Dolls heading next year. Make it happen Simon, it is what the festival fans are looking for.

 

I wouldn't worry about robith mate. He likes to accuse people of saying things they never said. He thinks it makes him look good. It doesn't.

[robith]

1 hour ago, Thruxton Appleby said:

I wouldn't worry about robith mate. He likes to accuse people of saying things they never said. He thinks it makes him look good. It doesn't.

You need therapy bruv. 18 posts, all of them about an argument on an internet forum five year ago. And you said what you said, own it.

Edited April 26, 2023 by robith

[Mardy]

1 hour ago, robith said:

You need therapy 

Motherfucker, I've now got an Avalanches 'Frontier Psychiatrist' earworm.

 

And that's easily the worst thing you've ever done on this forum. I won't forgive or forget that, buster.

[wolfamongwolves]

Ezra Furman playing Hare and hounds in Brum 29th Aug

[Thruxton Appleby]

5 hours ago, robith said:

You need therapy bruv. 18 posts, all of them about an argument on an internet forum five year ago. And you said what you said, own it.

I completely own what I said, and stand by every word. I won’t own what your twisted logic turned it into. To state, as you have, that I ever said there were “too many women at the festival” is an out-and-out lie. Which makes you a liar.

You take something someone has said, twist, strip out any nuance, distort, exaggerate and falsify, then accuse that person of saying what you have turned it into so you can finger-point and vilify. It’s clearly a thing you do, you did it to noisenoise recently. What you do is transparent, but what I don’t understand is why? What do you get out of it? Why do you feel the need to place yourself on some spurious moral high ground by misrepresenting other people’s views so you can set yourself in righteous opposition to something that was never said in the first place? Are you so desperate for validation?  Are there not enough real battles to fight without making up your own to make yourself look like the good guy? Is your self-esteem that low? Often the case with liars. Now there’s a case for therapy.

(Apologies to bystanders btw. If this response seems a bit strong it’s because I very much mind being called a misogynist. And I'm not a fan of liars.)

[robith]

34 minutes ago, Thruxton Appleby said:

I completely own what I said, and stand by every word. I won’t own what your twisted logic turned it into. To state, as you have, that I ever said there were “too many women at the festival” is an out-and-out lie. Which makes you a liar.

You take something someone has said, twist, strip out any nuance, distort, exaggerate and falsify, then accuse that person of saying what you have turned it into so you can finger-point and vilify. It’s clearly a thing you do, you did it to noisenoise recently. What you do is transparent, but what I don’t understand is why? What do you get out of it? Why do you feel the need to place yourself on some spurious moral high ground by misrepresenting other people’s views so you can set yourself in righteous opposition to something that was never said in the first place? Are you so desperate for validation?  Are there not enough real battles to fight without making up your own to make yourself look like the good guy? Is your self-esteem that low? Often the case with liars. Now there’s a case for therapy.

(Apologies to bystanders btw. If this response seems a bit strong it’s because I very much mind being called a misogynist. And I'm not a fan of liars.)

This is a concerning reaction to a post on an internet forum like 5 years ago. This is not a court of law, but a sharing of people's opinions, no one tried to cancel you brother, they gave their opinion on yours - I feel this is a really disproportionate reaction. I'm sorry that you feel there is some malevolent intent to destroy you - I gave my honest POV on what you said. I am allowed to elaborate and expand and interpret. I don't think there would be much discussion if everyone just had to repeat what others have literally posted.

You said the line up was weak because they were enforcing women headliners. I gave my opinion back that there was internalised misogyny in that statement, because whilst not what you literally said, you heavily insinuated that the line up was inherently weaker because women were at the top and this was a gender quota being enforced by the festival ie not on merit. And you lack of reflection on that being pointed out rather entrenched my view. And I was not the only one to feel the same, though I voiced it most vociferously - though I at least wrote full sentences, I think someone else just told you to "fuck off". I feel you've tried to retcon this argument personally. But I am open to critique of myself so to have inspired such fury and ad hominem insults across nearly half a decade, perhaps I go too hard and I'll adjust my posting style

Likewise with noisenosie, I just gave my POV. I feel slightly saddened that they've decided to shape their posts here around that, but if I've put them off posting I apologise. I did actually agree with their recent post that it's a bit mean to mock bands for not selling out venues fwiw.

Personally I don't recognise that characterisation of me - because I'm not a good guy, nowhere near perfect and always capable of improvement. But I would say that I guess. I don't really know what you want from me because I'm not going to change my position on what you said, so feel free to keep calling me names I suppose. But it's not good for you to harbour a grudge against someone you've never met for so long. It's just a forum to post about a festival we like brother. I might even learn more about you if you posted about anything other than that argument. Hell, I'll even buy you a beer or tea (deep cut for the secret set group there) at the festival if you want.

Edited April 26, 2023 by robith

[Thruxton Appleby]

1 hour ago, robith said:

This is a concerning reaction to a post on an internet forum like 5 years ago. This is not a court of law, but a sharing of people's opinions, no one tried to cancel you brother, they gave their opinion on yours - I feel this is a really disproportionate reaction. I'm sorry that you feel there is some malevolent intent to destroy you - I gave my honest POV on what you said. I am allowed to elaborate and expand and interpret. I don't think there would be much discussion if everyone just had to repeat what others have literally posted.

You said the line up was weak because they were enforcing women headliners. I gave my opinion back that there was internalised misogyny in that statement, because whilst not what you literally said, you heavily insinuated that the line up was inherently weaker because women were at the top and this was a gender quota being enforced by the festival ie not on merit. And you lack of reflection on that being pointed out rather entrenched my view. And I was not the only one to feel the same, though I voiced it most vociferously - though I at least wrote full sentences, I think someone else just told you to "fuck off". I feel you've tried to retcon this argument personally. But I am open to critique of myself so to have inspired such fury and ad hominem insults across nearly half a decade, perhaps I go too hard and I'll adjust my posting style

Likewise with noisenosie, I just gave my POV. I feel slightly saddened that they've decided to shape their posts here around that, but if I've put them off posting I apologise. I did actually agree with their recent post that it's a bit mean to mock bands for not selling out venues fwiw.

Personally I don't recognise that characterisation of me - because I'm not a good guy, nowhere near perfect and always capable of improvement. But I would say that I guess. I don't really know what you want from me because I'm not going to change my position on what you said, so feel free to keep calling me names I suppose. But it's not good for you to harbour a grudge against someone you've never met for so long. It's just a forum to post about a festival we like brother. I might even learn more about you if you posted about anything other than that argument. Hell, I'll even buy you a beer or tea (deep cut for the secret set group there) at the festival if you want.

To clarify then, the only reason I have felt it necessary to engage is because I have returned to this forum after a long break to find you still doing the same “you said ABC, so you mean XYZ” thing to other people. That is what I am reacting to. Not the stuff from years ago.

You are the one bringing that up, and you are still misquoting and misinterpreting. “You said the line up was weak because they were enforcing women headliners.” No, I did not say that, and it was not my point at all. And this is the problem, you don’t just “elaborate and expand and interpret”, you make assumptions about what people mean, and then judgments based on those assumptions, without attempting to gain clarification. You don’t have to just “repeat what others have literally posted”, but you can’t just make stuff up either.

I don’t want anything from you. OK, maybe to stop seeing you misrepresenting what I and other people have said. No need.

[SweepingTheNation]