Pinhead Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 This is actually excellent news as it shows a commitment to the continuity of the festival which has occasionally innthe past been in doubt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pinhead said: This is actually excellent news as it shows a commitment to the continuity of the festival which has occasionally innthe past been in doubt... from what I read I think they had to do it ... limited times they can keep applying ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrump Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 It might just be smoke and mirrors by the Eavii to give us something stop our endless headliner speculation... Or at least to get Neil to give gnr a break 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogster Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Leyrulion said: The biodiversity enhancement plan contains some great maps of where all the hedgerows are if anyone wants to plan some twice related sneaking in skullduggery Mostly blackthorn + hawthorn though. Just saying ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) From what i've read (I work in transport): The train strikes have damaged how easy it is to compare with previous years in many respects. 150 coach tickets (out of 24,000) didn't use their ticket (0.625%), so about 850 people overall tickets wasted based on 135k tickets No plans for electric charging due to needing roughly 650 chargers for one week a year 1,000 less campervans than estimated - no stated reason (rail strikes are blamed, not convinced that has any effect to be honest) About 66% lower train use due to train strikes 650 motorcycles parked on site, quite strange! To cope with car demand thats unprecedented, they have extra fields - some of which haven't been used for over 10 years £15 mil infrastructure cost for 2022 - anyone able to find a comparison? Cost to stage the festival is "over £50 mil" Edited January 11, 2023 by gfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 So car use has gone up? At least for this last year anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pinhead said: So car use has gone up? At least for this last year anyway? significantly because 20k less people took the train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Makes very interesting reading. I reckon if marketed properly this could out sell Harry’s spare. And a lot more informative and useful. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinhead said: This is actually excellent news as it shows a commitment to the continuity of the festival which has occasionally innthe past been in doubt... Imagine how many small and medium local businesses now depend on the festival for the bulk of their income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 surprised this hasn't appeared in Somerset live yet.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Neil said: surprised this hasn't appeared in Somerset live yet.😄 In the next 5 editions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Skip997 said: Imagine how many small and medium local businesses now depend on the festival for the bulk of their income. i think fallow years, mean that not too many depend on the festival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigpusher Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Dukeicon said: 2022 was the first year of the increased 210,000 capacity. Interesting thing is 2013 to 2014 was actually a much bigger leap in numbers and yet I don’t recall noticing it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, gigpusher said: Interesting thing is 2013 to 2014 was actually a much bigger leap in numbers and yet I don’t recall noticing it at all. its not just about the total numbers but also about how the entertainments spread those people around the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilton digger Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Neil said: surprised this hasn't appeared in Somerset live yet.😄 We had the planning notice copied to us last week as impacted. Somerset live will probably run it now it is on efest. They rip a lot off of the forums here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, pilton digger said: They rip a lot off of the forums here. no one has noticed. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Dukeicon said: 2022 was the first year of the increased 210,000 capacity. Jesus, capacity increasing by 32,500 in the space of six festivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, gigpusher said: Interesting thing is 2013 to 2014 was actually a much bigger leap in numbers and yet I don’t recall noticing it at all. That was at least partially a paper increase, and there was a couple of changes that went along with it that meant it didn't make a large net difference (and wasn't intended to). Firstly there was a push to get people counted properly who may previously have been "under the radar". Secondly a change in methodology (or at least, in intent) - instead of artists "tickets" being re-used day to day (effectively so one person leaves, another takes their "place"), each artist was to be ticketed individually and there was less concern about exactly how many were on site at any given moment. I don't know this with any confidence, but I suspect that on both counts it's crept back in the other direction over the subsequent 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaskins Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Well I guess that's positive news.. I started to worry about this Bazaar thing that was being talked of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: Jesus, capacity increasing by 32,500 in the space of six festivals Looks to me it stayed stagnant then jumped up 25k almost in one year? Like how it stayed stagnant 2014-2019 then jumped 7k for 2022? 1 hour ago, pilton digger said: We had the planning notice copied to us last week as impacted. Somerset live will probably run it now it is on efest. They rip a lot off of the forums here. make sure to post your comment! extended till end of jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, incident said: That was at least partially a paper increase, and there was a couple of changes that went along with it that meant it didn't make a large net difference (and wasn't intended to). Firstly there was a push to get people counted properly who may previously have been "under the radar". Secondly a change in methodology (or at least, in intent) - instead of artists "tickets" being re-used day to day (effectively so one person leaves, another takes their "place"), each artist was to be ticketed individually and there was less concern about exactly how many were on site at any given moment. I don't know this with any confidence, but I suspect that on both counts it's crept back in the other direction over the subsequent 10 years. I recall that they were licensed for the full amount from 2014-2019, but didn't add all the extra crew immediately, with the numbers ramping up every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigpusher Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 9 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said: I recall that they were licensed for the full amount from 2014-2019, but didn't add all the extra crew immediately, with the numbers ramping up every year. That would make sense if it was more gradual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon_Fields Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 16 hours ago, Dukeicon said: 2022 was the first year of the increased 210,000 capacity. What's the reasoning/justification for staff, crew and artists increasing % much more than the public? One of the rumours last year was they sold some of these tickets to the public - hence the thought there was a lot more than 3,000 punters on site. Is this a way around increasing numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon_Fields Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 15 hours ago, gfa said: From what i've read (I work in transport): The train strikes have damaged how easy it is to compare with previous years in many respects. 150 coach tickets (out of 24,000) didn't use their ticket (0.625%), so about 850 people overall tickets wasted based on 135k tickets No plans for electric charging due to needing roughly 650 chargers for one week a year 1,000 less campervans than estimated - no stated reason (rail strikes are blamed, not convinced that has any effect to be honest) About 66% lower train use due to train strikes 650 motorcycles parked on site, quite strange! To cope with car demand thats unprecedented, they have extra fields - some of which haven't been used for over 10 years £15 mil infrastructure cost for 2022 - anyone able to find a comparison? Cost to stage the festival is "over £50 mil" There's plans to increase coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said: There's plans to increase coaches. Good spot, I quite like getting the coach but hate the uncertainty about departure times, getting there late etc. It would be good if they could do something to increase capacity at the bus station, allowing more to arrive Wednesday morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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