Trussell Trust charity Auctions

[Gnomicide]

The good new is they've raised £494,180 so far, the bad news is (if you've bought 1 ticket) your chance of winning are 49,418 to 1.

[DareToDibble]

59 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

In the T&Cs it includes them drawing out extra names as back ups in case there's any reason the some of the 10 winners can't make it. 

Not that this would happen but imagine being told you have been drawn as backup, were basically 11th, and will be in line for tickets if any of the 10 drawn don't go for any reason. Torture.

[moogster]

13 minutes ago, t0paz said:

The problem with that is that the festival have no way of knowing if they really are your niece and nephew and not someone paying you a grand for the tickets.

True. But you could always sell the second ticket you won too.

[dotdash79]

30 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

The good new is they've raised £494,180 so far, the bad news is (if you've bought 1 ticket) your chance of winning are 49,418 to 1.

That's not correct as you have 10 chances to win so it's around 5,000 to 1

[gigpusher]

6 minutes ago, dotdash79 said:

That's not correct as you have 10 chances to win so it's around 5,000 to 1

No he's right he took a 0 off to account for the £10 a ticket so the odds have reduced but yay a huge amount to charity. It's over half a million now. 

[sadimmock]

50 minutes ago, t0paz said:

Think it’s fairly safe to say the raffle has done so well this year it will become a permanent fixture now? 

I hope so. To me it would make more sense to do it as two tranches of raffle rather than an auction + raffle. It would raise more money and avoids the optics of people buying their way in (and yes I know that happens anyway but it isn't  usually so visible).

[dotdash79]

11 minutes ago, gigpusher said:

No he's right he took a 0 off to account for the £10 a ticket so the odds have reduced but yay a huge amount to charity. It's over half a million now. 

£494,180 is 49,418 entries but with 10 chances to win that's 49,418 to 10 or 4,942 to 1.

[gigpusher]

1 minute ago, dotdash79 said:

£494,180 is 49,418 entries but with 10 chances to win that's 49,418 to 10 or 4,942 to 1.

1 ticket costs £10 with 1 chance to win. Sorry it's a long shot!

[paulshane]

Just now, gigpusher said:

1 ticket costs £10 with 1 chance to win. Sorry it's a long shot!

but one ticket gets you in all ten raffles, so it's the 1 in 4900 odds.

[gigpusher]

2 minutes ago, paulshane said:

but one ticket gets you in all ten raffles, so it's the 1 in 4900 odds.

Ah true fair enough whoop I'm going to win 😄 apologies to @dotdash79I was thinking you thought the ticket was 10 entries like they sometimes do with bigger priced tickets. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by gigpusher

[paulshane]

Just now, gigpusher said:

Ah true fair enough whoop I'm going to win 😄 

I won a pair of tickets to see Idles and Portishead for a  Warchild benefit in Brisol last year in a similar raffle (probably less entries though) so someone has to win 🙂

[Gnomicide]

30 minutes ago, dotdash79 said:

That's not correct as you have 10 chances to win so it's around 5,000 to 1

Ah, yes! Forgot about their being 10 pairs.

[gigpusher]

1 minute ago, paulshane said:

I won a pair of tickets to see Idles and Portishead for a  Warchild benefit in Brisol last year in a similar raffle (probably less entries though) so someone has to win 🙂

Yep I got to see Elbow at The Roadhouse for one of those benefits many years ago as well but yep I'm guessing this is still a slightly bigger raffle and that had more prizes as the whole audience was people who won. 

[Gnomicide]

5,000 to 1 then. About the same as on ticket day.

[gigpusher]

Just now, Gnomicide said:

5,000 to 1 then. About the same as on ticket day.

By the end of the raffle it will probably be about 10,000 to 1 if they are lucky. 

[4AssedMonkey]

13 minutes ago, paulshane said:

but one ticket gets you in all ten raffles, so it's the 1 in 4900 odds.

It's over 30 years since my Maths A level but I'm pretty sure that with successive draws the odds don't work like this.  It would be 10 chances at 49,000/1 each time, not 4,900/1.

[clasher]

Ah the odd world of odds!

The odds of a coin flip are 1/2, so the odds of ten heads in a row is 1/1024 (2^10). However after the first 3 heads in a row, chances of the fourth flip being heads is still 1/2. And after 9 consecutive heads, the odds for the tenth are still 1/2. What's going on, what sorcery is this? Does the past influence the future? Do the coins know?

 

 

The odds of those 10 pounds helping people in need is 1/1 though, and that's what really matters.

Edited February 16, 2023 by clasher

[Jose Pose]

The people screaming for a ballot after every October sale are getting a very harsh glimpse  at the reality of what that would actually look like at the moment. 

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, AdamTGlasto said:

So...why did they raffle a load of prizes off to all the rich boys and girls for Trussell when a raffle obviously would have made more? Is it the festival throwing a bone to their majority clientelle, or is it shitting on the poor (they do that enough with the ticket prices, don't they?). I hope a working class black girl wins a prize and speaks her mind about the system before introducing Razorlight.

I think the strategy is correct … they have appealed to those that can afford the hospitality versions …. Let’s face it they exist in plentiful supply and they’ve also done one for the less wealthy … if they had chosen 20 pairs of tickets for the raffle instead of 10 they wouldn’t have made more money for the charity so they are splitting their bets in 2 markets 

[cdm22]

Sorry, somehow missed all the other posts that have already gone through all this! 😄 

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by cdm22

[Simsy]

5 minutes ago, AdamTGlasto said:

So...why did they raffle a load of prizes off to all the rich boys and girls for Trussell when a raffle obviously would have made more? Is it the festival throwing a bone to their majority clientelle, or is it shitting on the poor (they do that enough with the ticket prices, don't they?). I hope a working class black girl wins a prize and speaks her mind about the system before introducing Razorlight.

But if there are 10 rich people who are willing to give £10,000+ each to trussell trust in exchange for glasto tickets, why not rinse them for every penny? They can clearly afford it.

Also, I know a lot of people think "the rich" and "proper glasto people" are completely separate circles on a venn diagram, but presumably the people who won the auctions are big enough glasto fans that they'd pay that much for standard (non-hospitality, no luxury yurts and flushing toilets) tickets.

[Jose Pose]

4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

I think the strategy is correct … they have appealed to those that can afford the hospitality versions …. Let’s face it they exist in plentiful supply and they’ve also done one for the less wealthy … if they had chosen 20 pairs of tickets for the raffle instead of 10 they wouldn’t have made more money for the charity so they are splitting their bets in 2 markets 

They would’ve easily made more money, the raffle has already made four times the auction. The first charity have been shafted by having the proceeds for the auction rather than a raffle, 20 tickets raffled and split between the two on two separate dates would’ve undeniably made more money than any auction.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Jose Pose

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

They would’ve easily made more money, the raffle has already made four times the auction. The first charity have been shafted by having the proceeds for the auction rather than a raffle, 20 tickets raffled and split between the two on two separate dates would’ve undeniably made more money than any auction.

Yeah you are right but don’t think anyone’s been shafted here and a proportion of the money is people donating because of a pressing need as much as it is for the tickets 

[Jose Pose]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Yeah you are right but don’t think anyone’s been shafted here and a proportion of the money is people donating because of a pressing need as much as it is for the tickets 

Obviously not intentionally shafted, that’s a it harsh on my part, but undeniably with two separate raffles, the first charity would’ve got a ton more money, and I doubt the second would’ve lost much because most people who entered the first raffle would enter the second one.

[Hugh Jass II]

24 minutes ago, AdamTGlasto said:

So...why did they raffle a load of prizes off to all the rich boys and girls for Trussell when a raffle obviously would have made more? Is it the festival throwing a bone to their majority clientelle, or is it shitting on the poor (they do that enough with the ticket prices, don't they?). I hope a working class black girl wins a prize and speaks her mind about the system before introducing Razorlight.

It wasn't the festival that held the auction, it was the Trussel Trust. GF just provided the prizes.