Trolley Recommendations

[marathonsteve]

Go to Car Boot sales that's where I bought mine. You have maybe 3  or 4 left including the Bank  holiday. Go Go Go Go Go Go

[Evilmonkeydan]

4 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

I'm considering a trolley this year but taking a different approach. I've got a 85L monster of a backpack which I'm comfortable carrying as long as I'm moving. Where I struggled with my bag last year were in transition areas such as getting on and off buses and during long periods of queuing. Standing around in the slow moving wristband queue was a pain as well as the stop start nature of the Gate A queue, picking up my bag and putting it down again every 5 minutes got annoying.

This year I'll be on the coach again, I'll have moved house before Glasto so will need to get a train to and from my departure point with a couple of changes. What I'd need is something to take the strain for the difficult parts of the journey to the festival such as dashing between station platforms and the slow moving entry queues but also be light enough so it won't make too much difference when I'm carrying the bag if the ground isn't firm. Once through the gates I'll be carrying the whole thing as I'll be able to move at a comfortable pace.

This is what I'm thinking of, from Eurohike so it's the same make as my backpack and my bag has got fixing points to allow it to be tied to a trolley so I'm guessing the spacing will match, the extra 2kg in weight won't make much difference to my overall load. Will obviously be needing it for the return journey too so it won't be getting left behind. Anyone got any experience with one?

 

 

These are what get called Festival Trollies, they tend to litter the runs into glasto as the wheels tend to falloff. 

[Superscally]

9 hours ago, squirrelarmy said:

I'm mainly wanting to use it on flat solid ground before getting to the festival. I'm thinking of lightweight and portability. As soon as the ground conditions aren't suitable for wheels I'd be hoisting the whole thing on to my back and carrying it the old fashioned way. Just thinking it would be easier in the queue if I just need to pull something for 5 metres before stopping again instead of having to lift my bag up and down all the time.

Might have to go for something more substantial like this. Aluminium so light but still foldable so won't have issues squeezing it on a coach.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/folding-sack-truck-80kg/1209p

That will die quickly.

 

[Jacko45]

As echo what others have said in regards to the lighter weight trolleys not being IDEAL. 

But I also understand that getting on coach with trolleys etc won't be easy.

I had one of these for years when I was younger and used to take public transport to festivals. 

Folds up dead small and it's actually very strong as are the wheels. 

I used to some old wood to make a 'back board' for the bottom part and pallet wrapped everything to it on arrival, was brilliant. 

https://g-rack.co.uk/products/single-lightweight-twin-handle-portable-sack-truck?utm_campaign=UK_EN_NB_PerfMax&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc

 

[Superscally]

I thought you wouldn't be able to bring that much on the coach you couldn't carry it yourself?

[squirrelarmy]

5 minutes ago, Superscally said:

I thought you wouldn't be able to bring that much on the coach you couldn't carry it yourself?

I take a big heavy bag and pack everything into that, I know you do as well. I'm ok carrying my bag once it's on my shoulders and I'm moving quickly.

My plan is to have the trolley strapped to the bag so I can take the weight off my shoulders while I'm stood around in queues or moving slowly. I'm not expecting the trolley to be upto the task of taking the weight of my bag across site which is why I want it to be light enough to be carried. It's going to be easier using the trolley on public transport.

[squirrelarmy]

I have my trolley sorted now. I did go for the cheap one in the end due to it being super lightweight. 
 

Did a test run on the cobbled streets of Yorkshire and unsurprisingly one of the wheels popped off. 
 

The only thing keeping the wheels on were these flimsy little caps. No wonder you see so many of them fail within half a mile of the gate. 

 

I’ve now upgraded the wheels and added stainless steel washers and split pins. 
 

I’ve then put the caps back on to keep the elements out of the pin hole. 
 

Do I think this trolley will survive any deep mud that may appear at the festival? 
 

Of course I don’t, this is why I can fold the handle down and use it as a regular rucksack for when the ground looks a little spongy. It’s fully strapped to my bag so won’t bounce around. 
 

 

Once fully loaded I’ll have my tent, airbed, sleeping bag and a few crates of cider within. It will get me through the public transport section of my journey and I can’t see the bus driver complaining about me taking excessive luggage either. I also won’t be over exerting myself either in slow moving queues. 
 

I’ll be able to carry an additional smaller rucksack with bus snacks, last minute weather gear and most importantly super cold queue beers. 
 

So if you have gone for one of those super cheap Eurohike “festival trolleys” make sure you secure the wheels properly. They look like they were designed to have split pins fitted as the holes were already pre-drilled but obviously in the manufacturing process they’ve cheaped out and omitted the pins which creates an easy point of failure. 

[Jay Pee]

4 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

I have my trolley sorted now. I did go for the cheap one in the end due to it being super lightweight. 
 

Did a test run on the cobbled streets of Yorkshire and unsurprisingly one of the wheels popped off. 
 

The only thing keeping the wheels on were these flimsy little caps. No wonder you see so many of them fail within half a mile of the gate. 

 

I’ve now upgraded the wheels and added stainless steel washers and split pins. 
 

I’ve then put the caps back on to keep the elements out of the pin hole. 
 

Do I think this trolley will survive any deep mud that may appear at the festival? 
 

Of course I don’t, this is why I can fold the handle down and use it as a regular rucksack for when the ground looks a little spongy. It’s fully strapped to my bag so won’t bounce around. 
 

 

Once fully loaded I’ll have my tent, airbed, sleeping bag and a few crates of cider within. It will get me through the public transport section of my journey and I can’t see the bus driver complaining about me taking excessive luggage either. I also won’t be over exerting myself either in slow moving queues. 
 

I’ll be able to carry an additional smaller rucksack with bus snacks, last minute weather gear and most importantly super cold queue beers. 
 

So if you have gone for one of those super cheap Eurohike “festival trolleys” make sure you secure the wheels properly. They look like they were designed to have split pins fitted as the holes were already pre-drilled but obviously in the manufacturing process they’ve cheaped out and omitted the pins which creates an easy point of failure. 

Good feedback. A Trolley manufacturer building without adding the split pins should result in a stab in the face for the company 

[Jay Pee]

6 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

I have my trolley sorted now. I did go for the cheap one in the end due to it being super lightweight. 
 

Did a test run on the cobbled streets of Yorkshire and unsurprisingly one of the wheels popped off. 
 

The only thing keeping the wheels on were these flimsy little caps. No wonder you see so many of them fail within half a mile of the gate. 

 

I’ve now upgraded the wheels and added stainless steel washers and split pins. 
 

I’ve then put the caps back on to keep the elements out of the pin hole. 
 

Do I think this trolley will survive any deep mud that may appear at the festival? 
 

Of course I don’t, this is why I can fold the handle down and use it as a regular rucksack for when the ground looks a little spongy. It’s fully strapped to my bag so won’t bounce around. 
 

 

Once fully loaded I’ll have my tent, airbed, sleeping bag and a few crates of cider within. It will get me through the public transport section of my journey and I can’t see the bus driver complaining about me taking excessive luggage either. I also won’t be over exerting myself either in slow moving queues. 
 

I’ll be able to carry an additional smaller rucksack with bus snacks, last minute weather gear and most importantly super cold queue beers. 
 

So if you have gone for one of those super cheap Eurohike “festival trolleys” make sure you secure the wheels properly. They look like they were designed to have split pins fitted as the holes were already pre-drilled but obviously in the manufacturing process they’ve cheaped out and omitted the pins which creates an easy point of failure. 

Good feedback. A Trolley manufacturer building without adding the split pins should result in a stab in the face for the company 

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Possibly of use to someone near the telford area;

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/323886636935653

 

[LowerMead]

OP, I note your key requirement is something that will fold up and go on the coach.

 

I have used one of these for Glastonbury several times, going on the coach.   https://amzn.eu/d/emczKLu 

 

It is rated at 80kg, but I try not to load it that much.

 

It's absolutely fine on the metalled roadways and does the job when space is at a premium   but I wouldn't fancy using it in the mud.  

 

I've used all sorts of trolleys over the years but my favourite for ease of use is the good old traditional sack truck with solid rubber wheels, something like this: https://www.sacktrucks.co.uk/folding-toe-high-back-p-handle-truck-200kg-capacity-with-puncture-proof-wheels/

 

Granted that is probably too big for your requirement but well up to the job. 

[clarkete]

6 minutes ago, LowerMead said:

OP, I note your key requirement is something that will fold up and go on the coach.

 

I have used one of these for Glastonbury several times, going on the coach.   https://amzn.eu/d/emczKLu 

 

It is rated at 80kg, but I try not to load it that much.

 

It's absolutely fine on the metalled roadways and does the job when space is at a premium   but I wouldn't fancy using it in the mud.  

 

I've used all sorts of trolleys over the years but my favourite for ease of use is the good old traditional sack truck with solid rubber wheels, something like this: https://www.sacktrucks.co.uk/folding-toe-high-back-p-handle-truck-200kg-capacity-with-puncture-proof-wheels/

 

Granted that is probably too big for your requirement but well up to the job. 

Solid tyres? 

 

Schoolboy error

[Neil]

On 5/15/2023 at 2:01 PM, Evilmonkeydan said:

Personally I’d recommend sack trucks and some large plastic boxes you can stack on them and bungee cord/strap. used something similar to this + two large boxes 40x40cmx100cm for years. 

What ever you buy some storage boxes and straps/bungees are a good idea, keeps stuff dry and allow you you stack it.
 

something similar to this.
 

https://www.diy.com/departments/600lb-heavy-duty-sack-truck-industrial-hand-trolley-with-pneumatic-tyre-wheel/5056316702478_BQ.prd

i once used a sack truck like that, and it wasn't as good as i thought it would be, it was difficult keeping stuff on the trolley, unless clingfilm wrapped to the trolley, uncomfortable to push/pull and too big to easily store in your tent.

 

because you have the trolley its tempting to overload it, don't make that mistake, try to keep it light.

 

was only just a bit better than doing multiple journeys to the car.

[balti-pie]

Its the age old discussion: one journey taking absolutely everything, or a streamlined tent only trip followed by a second one carrying more stuff? I think its easier to just concentrate on tent and bed first trip, get most things sorted and shipshape, then out for a second bash for clothes and food, which is a far more relaxed and sedate affair almost certainly featuring a stop for a beer and a sitdown.

Its a tightrope though. One trippers break themselves on that one go, and then smile smugly at the two trippers. But the two trippers arent mouthing swears at everyone around them in the queues. well, not as much. 

[Crazyfool01]

2 trips is beautifuly easy with bikes and trailers … no weight on the back . 2016 was quite hard mind as it got badly rutted and the woodchip / straw clogged up the wheels and brakes 

[a.shep]

22 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

Its the age old discussion: one journey taking absolutely everything, or a streamlined tent only trip followed by a second one carrying more stuff? I think its easier to just concentrate on tent and bed first trip, get most things sorted and shipshape, then out for a second bash for clothes and food, which is a far more relaxed and sedate affair almost certainly featuring a stop for a beer and a sitdown.

Its a tightrope though. One trippers break themselves on that one go, and then smile smugly at the two trippers. But the two trippers arent mouthing swears at everyone around them in the queues. well, not as much. 

In my experience (mostly Gate B), you can get in a lot quicker on the Wednesday morning with a tent trip first, trolley second. People without a trolley cut the corners of the zig zag queue leaving all the fully loaded trolley folk behind. 

[Jay Pee]

43 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

Its the age old discussion: one journey taking absolutely everything, or a streamlined tent only trip followed by a second one carrying more stuff? I think its easier to just concentrate on tent and bed first trip, get most things sorted and shipshape, then out for a second bash for clothes and food, which is a far more relaxed and sedate affair almost certainly featuring a stop for a beer and a sitdown.

Its a tightrope though. One trippers break themselves on that one go, and then smile smugly at the two trippers. But the two trippers arent mouthing swears at everyone around them in the queues. well, not as much. 

This. I was on site on Monday prior and spent a fair chunk of Wednesday morning on Muddy Lane helping tearful / argumentive folk with knackered (overloaded) trolleys get down to Williams Green Area.

 

Not helped by the downpour the precise time the gates were opening. Muddy name muddy nature 

[HotChipWillBreakYourLegs]

1 hour ago, clarkete said:

Solid tyres? 

 

Schoolboy error

 

Solid rubber tyres ftw.

 

I've had a few pneumatic tyres puncture and come off the rim.  Never had a solid rubber tyres wheel fail.

[clarkete]

14 minutes ago, HotChipWillBreakYourLegs said:

 

Solid rubber tyres ftw.

 

I've had a few pneumatic tyres puncture and come off the rim.  Never had a solid rubber tyres wheel fail.

Puncture?  Crikey what were you carrying, a hod of bricks? 

[HotChipWillBreakYourLegs]

1 hour ago, clarkete said:

Puncture?  Crikey what were you carrying, a hod of bricks? 

 

A heavy load and wet or uneven ground and pneumatic trolley wheels come off the hub.

[Jay Pee]

2 minutes ago, HotChipWillBreakYourLegs said:

 

A heavy load and wet or uneven ground and pneumatic trolley wheels come off the hub.

Agree. Solid all day long FTW. And fishing wheelbarrow > trolleys. They are so robust over the Worthy Farm terrain and don't underestimate the joy of pushing rather than dragging.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Now this is a solid tyre that looks like it'd do the job;

 

 

 

 

 

I am in danger of getting into small tyre porn. You should see some of the tyres that I have just seen. The sexy little minxes!

[Jay Pee]

1 minute ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

Now this is a solid tyre that looks like it'd do the job;

 

 

 

 

 

I am in danger of getting into small tyre porn. You should see some of the tyres that I have just seen. The sexy little minxes!

I have similar but in a fetching yellow. Nursing a semi thinking about it.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

56 minutes ago, Jay Pee said:

I have similar but in a fetching yellow. Nursing a semi thinking about it.

 

Yellow! That is indeed lazy lob on territory.

[clarkete]

My recollection of smaller hard tyres and pulling trolleys in years with any wet mud was grim.  Pretty much dragging it anywhere that didn't have a track.  The thought leaves me distinctly flaccid, but then I am old.