Quadrophobia Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, katyaz said: Mad Cool not happening next year? Wow I mean they had huge Problems with the venue, right? Maybe thats been killing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brosch Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 As this topic has been discussed here: The Guardian has an article about big names vs. festivals. Aside from some UK specific factors, this goes for Primavera too I suppose https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/dec/02/festival-organisers-sound-alarm-as-big-name-artists-shun-their-events?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3wB07KMXKuk2UkQRyS0zPt14MuQ9HVb_6G5VmGtgmWCoMygBKvLJ1lROw_aem_Aa0c7M74KuxBNIGlEoat8Nl6e9eUvCveq-Rvi3RO7fVGwwZBLiG_MsmTOSziACoCWzc#Echobox=1701535523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibo Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Mad cool had big issues with where they were (where PS Madrid happened) but I thought they had moved from there last year no? i might be wrong… and weird that few weeks / months ago they announced the exact dates for July 2024 and now it’s moved to 2025. wonder what’s happened… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 PS must be kicking themselves for not having a Madrid venue this year and cleaning up on ticket sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 I wonder what it means for PS. There are probably a few relevant artists that were closed at MadCool and now are up for grabs, whether as late additions or replacements for cancelations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 One Spanish publication now says its a Publicity stunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipan Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 Suddenly the line-up teasing radio shows don't seem so terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 hours ago, ibo said: Mad cool had big issues with where they were (where PS Madrid happened) but I thought they had moved from there last year no? i might be wrong… and weird that few weeks / months ago they announced the exact dates for July 2024 and now it’s moved to 2025. wonder what’s happened… Madcool was in Villaverde. Primavera Madrid was in Arganda Del Rey. Completely different places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: One Spanish publication now says its a Publicity stunt their lineup announcements were always annoying, but if it's true, it a whole new level of stupidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: One Spanish publication now says its a Publicity stunt Madcools social media team are notoriously bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, JedTheHumanoid said: their lineup announcements were always annoying, but if it's true, it a whole new level of stupidity 100%…they would want to acknowledge it’s a stunt before there is a run on BBK or Primavera or Nos Alive tickets and their prospective customers shoot their wad on competitors festivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceMan Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 hours ago, brosch said: As this topic has been discussed here: The Guardian has an article about big names vs. festivals. Aside from some UK specific factors, this goes for Primavera too I suppose https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/dec/02/festival-organisers-sound-alarm-as-big-name-artists-shun-their-events?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3wB07KMXKuk2UkQRyS0zPt14MuQ9HVb_6G5VmGtgmWCoMygBKvLJ1lROw_aem_Aa0c7M74KuxBNIGlEoat8Nl6e9eUvCveq-Rvi3RO7fVGwwZBLiG_MsmTOSziACoCWzc#Echobox=1701535523 This is a decent read (if a little light on depth) but does shine a light on the challenges facing bookers everywhere. Most of the users of this forum lived through a wonderful era of festival line ups in the last decade or two, but the reality is everything is more expensive now and costs have to be cut in some areas. Add in the competition factor of more festivals and standalone artist concerts because live music events are such a big deal for generations of people who no longer spend money on physical media (or at least not as much as they used to) and it's no major surprise that we're in the shape we're in with dead cert acts going elsewhere (or not appearing at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Quadrophobia said: One Spanish publication now says its a Publicity stunt I don’t believe this. Mad Cool may be stupid but this would be deranged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 …actually it seems they are this deranged. The most idiotic PR I’ve ever seen. How are the people who’ve cancelled hotels or booked tickets to other festivals instead meant to feel about their pathetic and pointless joke…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfidenceMan Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, xxialac said: I don’t believe this. Mad Cool may be stupid but this would be deranged. If I had been planning to go, I'd have had accommodation lined up. I'd 100% have cancelled that last night after this social post and started looking elsewhere. I mean, it's one thing if it was a rumour reported in media or something, but a clear statement from the festival on socials would prompt a heap of people to change their plans, surely? At the very least, they'll have lost a few attendees but, honestly, that festival seems to find ways to outdo its absolute chaos every year. Next year, they won't even announce. They'll just turn up on site in July with zero fans present, and Taylor swift and pearl jam on stage and post on some outdated social platform like MySpace that tickets are free, you just need to get here before they finish playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 The plan for 2026 is to go round to all the addresses on their database and punch everyone in the face with an oversized Mad Cool branded glove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, xxialac said: …actually it seems they are this deranged. The most idiotic PR I’ve ever seen. How are the people who’ve cancelled hotels or booked tickets to other festivals instead meant to feel about their pathetic and pointless joke…. Has it been confirmed to be a stunt then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Quadrophobia said: Has it been confirmed to be a stunt then? No but the consensus seems to be that 'See you in 2025' is their way of tricking people and they will actually reveal at 20.25 tonight. They think they are so clever. See you in 2025 doesn't even work from a language perspective. Muppets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, xxialac said: No but the consensus seems to be that 'See you in 2025' is their way of tricking people and they will actually reveal at 20.25 tonight. They think they are so clever. See you in 2025 doesn't even work from a language perspective. Muppets. This really is the worst communications team I have ever seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, xxialac said: No but the consensus seems to be that 'See you in 2025' is their way of tricking people and they will actually reveal at 20.25 tonight. They think they are so clever. See you in 2025 doesn't even work from a language perspective. Muppets. I don't know, this sounds too stupid to be true. I think it's wishful thinking from people that still hope it will happen this year. I still tend to believe there's a limit to human stupidity (though this believe often get slapped in the face by reality...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said: I don't know, this sounds too stupid to be true. I think it's wishful thinking from people that still hope it will happen this year. I still tend to believe there's a limit to human stupidity (though this believe often get slapped in the face by reality...) I think posting this at 9pm on a Sunday without any explanation wouldn't have been done if it were for real. Then again its Mad Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 Regardless of their PR, I think it would make sense for people to switch to Primavera because the lineups are better every year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico_Pliskin Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, emmanuel said: Regardless of their PR, I think it would make sense for people to switch to Primavera because the lineups are better every year! That's subjective of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rico_Pliskin said: That's subjective of course Almost all comments on here are subjective. That’s the nature of a discussion forum, especially one about music… Edited December 4, 2023 by xxialac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: I think posting this at 9pm on a Sunday without any explanation wouldn't have been done if it were for real. Then again its Mad Cool yeah, either way it's crappy communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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