Drums Please Fab Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 19 hours ago, xxialac said: But you are comparing something totally different i.e. the ethics of a festival inviting Arcade Fire. I was making a totally different comparison which is the ethics of a band agreeing to play at a festival that also has Arcade Fire on the lineup alongside 100+ other acts (and as another poster pointed out, probably wasn't even aware of this when they agreed). If Madcool don't get their act together, I'll be going to BBK essentially just to see Arcade Fire. The Cala Mijas gig was the best I've seen them, and I've seen them double digit times at this stage. Although the Wizink gig wasn't far off...Rabbit hole is a belter of an opener. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Drums Please Fab said: If Madcool don't get their act together, I'll be going to BBK essentially just to see Arcade Fire. The Cala Mijas gig was the best I've seen them, and I've seen them double digit times at this stage. Although the Wizink gig wasn't far off...Rabbit hole is a belter of an opener. As you wish, €150 seems a bit stiff for Arcade Fire, but we are happy for you. Meanwhile there are 150 bands to discover on the Primavera lineup 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilirocker Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Don't think Jane's Addiction will be doing a special ciduad show - really confusing as to why they weren't booked 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, chilirocker said: Don't think Jane's Addiction will be doing a special ciduad show - really confusing as to why they weren't booked 😞 When would that be? They are in the UK all through the PS week. Just a very typical case of They Weren't Available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameHere Posted December 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, chilirocker said: Don't think Jane's Addiction will be doing a special ciduad show - really confusing as to why they weren't booked 😞 I think this shows exactly why they weren't booked. Dates just didn't work out unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaalive Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 So, Kalorama (and probably Cala Mijas) get all your Primavera names! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, aaalive said: So, Kalorama (and probably Cala Mijas) get all your Primavera names! There's a typo on that poster where it accidentally says Sam Smith. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, xxialac said: There's a typo on that poster where it accidentally says Sam Smith. Very good lineup, with 4 omissions that would have been popular at Primavera. Hopefully Cala Mijas has mostly the same as this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 11 hours ago, aaalive said: So, Kalorama (and probably Cala Mijas) get all your Primavera names! Some great headliners and some not so great ones, undercard is naff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, scatteredscreens said: Some great headliners and some not so great ones, undercard is naff though. Yes, to each his own. There's only Massive Attack and The Smile that I would watch, and even then I wouldn't go out of my way to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrainertje Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, emmanuel said: Yes, to each his own. There's only Massive Attack and The Smile that I would watch, and even then I wouldn't go out of my way to see them. You ar missing out on LCD Soundsystem then, one of the best live acts on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festivalguy97 Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, matrainertje said: You ar missing out on LCD Soundsystem then, one of the best live acts on the planet. Amazing act but I’ve seen the recently and if it’s the same show without any new material or alterations then it’s a bit meh, for sure would prefer them or Massive Attack over The National and Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 for me, the biggest miss from this lineup is Postal Sevice/DCFC. Smile, LCD soundsystem and Massive Attack are all great and I wish we had them, but we will have them, if not this year then next or after. This special Give Up/Transatlanticism format is something unique that I'm not sure if we'll get again, maybe on the 30/20 anniversary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, matrainertje said: You ar missing out on LCD Soundsystem then, one of the best live acts on the planet. Right, it is just because of my lack of knowledge. I would probably watch them too, but then I'm not going to Kalorama....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, JedTheHumanoid said: for me, the biggest miss from this lineup is Postal Sevice/DCFC. Smile, LCD soundsystem and Massive Attack are all great and I wish we had them, but we will have them, if not this year then next or after. This special Give Up/Transatlanticism format is something unique that I'm not sure if we'll get again, maybe on the 30/20 anniversary Yeah, same for me. Yet that seems to be fixed for later in the summer, hence no chance for PS whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Yeah it's a shame on the PS/DCFC tour, I'm really glad for that London date, would be gutted to miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBare Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said: Yeah it's a shame on the PS/DCFC tour, I'm really glad for that London date, would be gutted to miss it. I’m keeping my eyes open on that London date too. Traveling from abroad, I hope it’s gonna be on a Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Bloc Party doing a one off summer show with Friendly Fires and the Hives in London to celebrate 20 years of Silent Alarm. Would have loved to have had them at Primavera. I almost won an auction for one of Russell Lissack's guitars a few years back but got pipped at the post. Such a shame Moakes and Tong left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brosch Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, LBare said: I’m keeping my eyes open on that London date too. Traveling from abroad, I hope it’s gonna be on a Saturday. Same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosh_Bothman Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 23 hours ago, Drums Please Fab said: If Madcool don't get their act together, I'll be going to BBK essentially just to see Arcade Fire. The Cala Mijas gig was the best I've seen them, and I've seen them double digit times at this stage. Although the Wizink gig wasn't far off...Rabbit hole is a belter of an opener. All that just to watch a sexual predator that you've already seen before??? Eww 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, Rosh_Bothman said: All that just to watch a sexual predator that you've already seen before??? Eww Yeah the tickets were cheap as chips. It's really no hassle at all compared to Primavera hotel prices. But if madcool pull out the stops Id prefer Madrid. That's why im holding off. I buy tickets for all the big ones most years and flip what I won't be going to. As for the Win Butler stuff. Ive never been one for the modern kangaroo court mob mentality. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Drums Please Fab said: Yeah the tickets were cheap as chips. It's really no hassle at all compared to Primavera hotel prices. But if madcool pull out the stops Id prefer Madrid. That's why im holding off. I buy tickets for all the big ones most years and flip what I won't be going to. As for the Win Butler stuff. Ive never been one for the modern kangaroo court mob mentality. People have strong opinions of him, but I don't think most of us care whether people still go see Arcade Fire or not. I can't help thinking that if people watching their shows are ready to overlook his actions, then they might also overlook basic concert and festival etiquette. I might be wrong, but I wouldn't feel comfortable at a festival where the band is playing. This is all made easier by the fact that they are now a very boring live band. Edited December 7, 2023 by emmanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Please Fab Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, emmanuel said: People have strong opinions of him, but I don't think most of us care whether people still go see Arcade Fire or not. I can't help thinking that if people watching their shows are ready to overlook his actions, then they might also overlook basic concert and festival etiquette. I might be wrong, but I wouldn't feel comfortable at a festival where the band is playing. This is all made easier by the fact that they are now a very boring live band. Have you ever seen arcade fire fans. 😃 predominantly a bunch of hipster nerds and women.. Id never feel uncomfortable or threatened around them. What do you think happened at Cala Mijas? A load of gang rapes and punch ups? I just don't live my life in such an absolutist way. If someone is jailed for a serious offence like R Kelly or Gary Glitter then yes... "burn them at the stake". Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, XXXtentacion, Pete Doherty, Lizzo. Where is the line with morality? One mans sexual predator is another man banging some groupies. The only thing Win Butler is 100% "guilty" of due to his confession is cheating on his wife. The rest until he is before the courts is allegations, conjecture and hyperbole. This message has been typed up on my iPhone made in a sweatshop in china while wearing my Yeezys designed by an anti semite. Life if lived in such a puritanical manner makes hypocrites of us all. Edited December 7, 2023 by Drums Please Fab 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 Yeah watching a gig doesn’t mean tacit approval of all band members’ actions. It’s perfectly reasonable to consume any art form without the presumption from others that you must support all the actions of the creator of the art. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 I said overlooking, not approving actions. The "some rock star did worse" deflection used on Arcade Fire fan forums doesn't work at all in the outside world I'm afraid. I think you've only made my point more clear, I don't want to be part of any of that if that's the type of banter fans have at their shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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