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Fair enough. I guess I can relate a bit more because my general approach has been to go see bands I like, and if there isn't anything, go watch Theatre/Circus/Comedy. And the interesting thing is Circus now shuts at 6pm Sunday, so does The Glebe and Poetry&Words. Pavement/Gateway/Sensation/Walkabout acts only run until 6pm most days anyway. Astrolabe shuts at 8pm Sunday. There's quite a lot of the festival that shuts by Sunday evening. Obviously there's also plenty of other stuff still on but honestly don't blame people for wanting to leave a bit early - especially as for some, driving home Midnight-5am wouldn't be safe, so it means another night in the tent, but 7pm-midnight would be and gets them home effectively a day early. Saves a day's annual leave too for people who have work on Monday.
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Would make little difference, we’re already there re more money than sense brigade
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Went right through the night as partner wanted to see someone 3-4am SE corner. Packed up before headliners the Sunday night. Back to camp for 4:30, last toilet breaks and collecting stuff and we were at the coach queue by 5:20. Barely any queue and managed to get on the 5:40 back to Bristol despite having a 6am ticket. Luckily live not far from Bristol coach station so I was home by 7:15! Very pain free and glad to have all day Monday to sleep!
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This is exactly the problem. But I’ve no idea how to discourage the tourists. Personally I find a vibe I’m enjoying and stay there
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But in those situations you have two things you don't have here: 1) structure, so everyone can get heard, and people can be held responsible for what they say and 2) good faith - the very point of attending a debate is to have a conversation and try and change minds An internet forum is not that. People are not necessarily operating in good faith. "Trolling" is absolutely a thing, and while often stuff gets classified as "trolling" which isn't, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Not everyone is here for a debate. Some people are just here to spew horrible things, wind people up and then laugh. Some are just here to express anger at some perceived slight by the booking policy. I get where you are coming from. There are some people on this site I've had massive arguments with, and disagreed with hugely, but they always argued in good faith and we'd all admit when we were wrong. I mean to put it another way, using your debating seminars as an example, imagine if say you were hosting a debate on who should be the next PM. And one speaker just stood up and started chanting "Sunak out. Sunak out. Sunak out" over and over, trying to get the audience to join in. Presumably you would shut that down? Because that person isn't there to debate. They're just acting as a disrupter. What happened with that post was the online equivalent of that.
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