stuie Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, Kaboom Boxer said: I quite enjoy some of Styles’ stuff and was with you all the way up to the Prince / Bowie comparisons. Time will tell but I think that’s a bridge beyond where his ceiling lies as an artist. I'm not a fan of his and maybe my comparisons are a bit over the top, but his fan base is massive, and he's interesting, fashionable, iconic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dg_vic Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 Even glasto has precedent for not showing pyramid headliners live. Rolling Stones was not shown (and I don’t think ever shown) apart from a few songs. Eminem is not headlining glasto though so a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllieMadd Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 5 minutes ago, Dg_vic said: Even glasto has precedent for not showing pyramid headliners live. Rolling Stones was not shown (and I don’t think ever shown) apart from a few songs. Eminem is not headlining glasto though so a moot point. That was up to the Stones though. They chose that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, OllieMadd said: That was up to the Stones though. They chose that. Same with Eminem and Reading tbf as detailed above. I think Blur did this as well in 2009, but it was then also released in full during lockdown. Edited October 6 by charlierc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 16 minutes ago, Dg_vic said: Eminem is not headlining glasto though so a moot point. I wouldn't say it's 100% out of the question but I think he's more likely to do his own shows for the payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Dg_vic said: Even glasto has precedent for not showing pyramid headliners live. Rolling Stones was not shown (and I don’t think ever shown) apart from a few songs. Eminem is not headlining glasto though so a moot point. It's tricky, because we don't know what was in the agreement with the BBC at that time, or what was in the agreement with the acts, and/or whether or not the Stones negotiated an exception to that. But we do know what's in the current (standard) agreement: There's more than that, but that's the part I feel comfortable posting. I guess the question for any headliner, including Eminem, would be: - Is the act comfortable with that? - If they're not, do the festival want them enough that they're prepared to negotiate an exception? Edited October 6 by incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 10 hours ago, MEGABOWL said: She’s mates with Beyoncé and Jay-Z IIRC, they both really enjoyed it For devil's advocate though, would either of those come back again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesy10 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Kaboom Boxer said: I quite enjoy some of Styles’ stuff and was with you all the way up to the Prince / Bowie comparisons. Time will tell but I think that’s a bridge beyond where his ceiling lies as an artist. Agree on this. Kudos to the guy, he seems really cool and down to earth, some catchy pop tunes and great stage presence... but comparing him to David Bowie and Prince is just... come on man 🤣 you're looking right to the top of the greatest artists in the history of music with stacks of world class, timeless and household songs that will live on for eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memory Man Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 (edited) Fair enough re harry, i dont get it whatsoever but it would keep some people happy has no history with the festival unlike dua but i suppose that doesnt especially matter not as culturally interesting or relevant as chappell roan and olivia dont really get it but theres not many / any current or newer bands to fill the headline slots so solo pop acts will eventually take over it would definitely be a real signifier of the festival moving from having been a countercultural event to well…. not Edited October 6 by Memory Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Memory Man said: it would definitely be a real signifier of the festival moving from having been a countercultural event to well…. not If you see that as an indicator that Glastonbury would be moving away from being a “countercultural event” then it happened many years ago. But let’s be honest it’s had a “mainstream” side to it for a long time anyway and certainly been in the “mainstream” conscious for at least a couple of decades. Fortunately it still retains a “counterculture” side Edited October 6 by Skip997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memory Man Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 Yeah true. At least they had some truly heroic stuff like the cure and blur 09. Its been a good run and the headliners arent the best part of the festival anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 It’s arguable that the UK counterculture has had at least as big an effect on the development of the festival as the festival has had on the UK counterculture, if not bigger. Examples being the 80’s traveller scene and the late 80’s/early 90’s rave scene. Remember Michael Eavis was adamant that there would never be “dance music” at Glastonbury. The SE corner, Arcadia and Silver Hayes wouldn’t exist without the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindles Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 I remember reading an article about the history of the festival and it said that 1992 was the key year that the dance crowd came to glastonbury en masse and at the time the traveller community and hippies were still very much the backbone, they accepted the ravers with open arms (and apparently open bags, as the MDMA was said to have been very well received) and from there on out they were as much a part of the fabric of the place as any of the old timers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 2 hours ago, Dg_vic said: Even glasto has precedent for not showing pyramid headliners live. Rolling Stones was not shown (and I don’t think ever shown) apart from a few songs. Eminem is not headlining glasto though so a moot point. most of the set got aired on iplayer. ya'll happy. Either Rihanna said no to Coachella or no to everyone. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 12 minutes ago, Suprefan said: ya'll happy. Delighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 5 hours ago, Suprefan said: most of the set got aired on iplayer. ya'll happy. Either Rihanna said no to Coachella or no to everyone. Time will tell. To be honest it should be called instachella now, it's a shadow of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 9 hours ago, Memory Man said: Yeah true. At least they had some truly heroic stuff like the cure and blur 09. Its been a good run and the headliners arent the best part of the festival anyway. Both of those acts are on major label with multiple hit singles. Nothin9g remotely countercultural about either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Coachella has filtered itself into the ground. Let Glastonbury never do this, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 9 hours ago, Suprefan said: most of the set got aired on iplayer. ya'll happy. Either Rihanna said no to Coachella or no to everyone. Time will tell. The article says that Kendrick is looking at doing his own US stadium tour, so he makes sense. Would've thought as Rihanna hasn't toured in a while that this could've worked as her big comeback. So we can assume Coachella is going to be trying to bump up names to headline status rather than bringing in a megastar then huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Contradicts that article a week or so back that suggested a big legacy rock headliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Wasn't somebody claiming Pink Floyd? I'd just assumed they were confused and meant Roger Waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) There was an update with the headline 'Money, It's A Gas' - some folk who obviously don't read Dave Gilmour interviews thought it may be Floyd, but Roger Waters was the only name that really made sense. Some others thought 'It's a gas' meant the Stones but that's more of a stretch. Edited October 7 by CaledonianGonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 If Rihanna is out and Eminem has declined the offer maybe there is some substance to the Styles rumour. Though a headline trio of Fred / Liv / Hazza would definitely turn some elderly faces an even deeper shade of mauve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthelBailey Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 35 minutes ago, charlierc said: The article says that Kendrick is looking at doing his own US stadium tour, so he makes sense. Would've thought as Rihanna hasn't toured in a while that this could've worked as her big comeback. So we can assume Coachella is going to be trying to bump up names to headline status rather than bringing in a megastar then huh. Perhaps G is her big comeback…? The reasons of ‘money and exposure’ has now put doubt in my mind though in regards of her headlining. However, I would have been surprised if she had booked both Coachella and Glastonbury in the same year as undoubtedly headlining Coachella first would take away some buzz/anticipation for her big ‘Riturn’ (sorry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 I'd love to see Rihanna do it, and having a pair of cheaper acts in the other two slots would lend credence to the argument they had pimped the coffers. But I just don't catch the drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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