RedJosh Posted yesterday at 08:46 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:46 PM It is much easier for Download to curate a day for Green Day than it is for IOW. To IOW they are stadium rock band, to Download they are going to be seen more as a punk/pop-punk band. IOW isn't booking punk or pop-punk, but when they have booked punk in the past, it has been Sex Pistols, Iggy and the Stooges and The Stranglers. They aren't booking the likes of The Offspring, Jimmy Eat World, Neck Deep or The Story So Far on the undercard, which Download have done before and will again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted yesterday at 08:48 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:48 PM 45 minutes ago, callum97 said: Give us a first announcement like this There is no way your getting Avril lower than that second line. She literally doesn't have to play this year really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilltheory Posted yesterday at 09:30 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:30 PM Thought id join in with fake posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted yesterday at 09:51 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:51 PM We assuming the bill won't drop until Sleep Token wrap their tour, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum97 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 32 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said: We assuming the bill won't drop until Sleep Token wrap their tour, then? Nov 12th announcement Sleep Token pretty much fully sold out so that’s not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 9 hours ago, callum97 said: Nov 12th announcement Sleep Token pretty much fully sold out so that’s not an issue. Fair enough. Know they're reportedly selling well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 16 hours ago, chilltheory said: Thought id join in with fake posters I think if you move Falling in Reverse to sub that's a decent bet. Saturday ticket as the other days are terrible anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Falling in Reverse seem to be a bizarrely big draw for a band whose best-charting album in the UK reached #29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, NorthernSoul52 said: Falling in Reverse seem to be a bizarrely big draw for a band whose best-charting album in the UK reached #29. That's where Spotify etc comes in. With the tour they are doing they are either going to sub or not play and wait to headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolee Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, NorthernSoul52 said: Falling in Reverse seem to be a bizarrely big draw for a band whose best-charting album in the UK reached #29. People don’t really buy albums anymore. You’ll usually see a massive artist like Foos or Taylor Swift and then anyone who does vinyl/outstore shows to sell records get charting but it’s not a very good metric for where to be placed at a festival. Spotify also isn’t a great metric because you don’t know the demographic, why someone is listening, do they know the artist they’re listening to? & do they go to the shows? I’d say your best bet for placing bands at festivals these days is size of shows and how many tickets they’ve sold/if they’ve sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Falling In Reverse have sold a tonne of tickets so I’m expecting them to sub Main or headline Second at the very least. It is worth noting these are their first ever UK shows so that has obviously played a part but if they can keep these numbers up (or even exceed them) in future, they’re absolutely in the headliner conversation going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, foolee said: People don’t really buy albums anymore. You’ll usually see a massive artist like Foos or Taylor Swift and then anyone who does vinyl/outstore shows to sell records get charting but it’s not a very good metric for where to be placed at a festival. Spotify also isn’t a great metric because you don’t know the demographic, why someone is listening, do they know the artist they’re listening to? & do they go to the shows? I’d say your best bet for placing bands at festivals these days is size of shows and how many tickets they’ve sold/if they’ve sold out. Yup. Even with Spotify I usually just look for a compilation of what I like more than anything and play a random mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Andre91 said: Falling In Reverse have sold a tonne of tickets so I’m expecting them to sub Main or headline Second at the very least. It is worth noting these are their first ever UK shows so that has obviously played a part but if they can keep these numbers up (or even exceed them) in future, they’re absolutely in the headliner conversation going forward. For someone who predicts bands like you do, to even put them in second stage headline territory now is madness. Way above that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, northernangel said: For someone who predicts bands like you do, to even put them in second stage headline territory now is madness. Way above that. Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolee Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Andre91 said: Falling In Reverse have sold a tonne of tickets so I’m expecting them to sub Main or headline Second at the very least. It is worth noting these are their first ever UK shows so that has obviously played a part but if they can keep these numbers up (or even exceed them) in future, they’re absolutely in the headliner conversation going forward. 100% sub or second stage headliner agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, foolee said: 100% sub or second stage headliner agreed. They might want to bring a big production with them which is why I could see them headlining Second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 24 minutes ago, foolee said: 100% sub or second stage headliner agreed. They are two different levels. I don't think any second stage headliner, even The bigger one's from the anniversary year can do the tour they have and sell at the rate they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral_Low Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, northernangel said: For someone who predicts bands like you do, to even put them in second stage headline territory now is madness. Way above that. Bigger than Ghost, Evanescence, Placebo, Pantera, Machine Head? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Spiral_Low said: Bigger than Ghost, Evanescence, Placebo, Pantera, Machine Head? 🤔 Sell more tickets than all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolee Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, northernangel said: They are two different levels. I don't think any second stage headliner, even The bigger one's from the anniversary year can do the tour they have and sell at the rate they have. Sometimes I think it’s about who is on main and if a band want to headline a stage though. Like Korn headlining main I could see FIR accepting the second stage but if they are offered sub for ST they might want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre91 Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Bloodhound Gang are back and playing Rock AM Ring, apparently. GET THEM AT DL. Edited 1 hour ago by Andre91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom1984 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Yeah, Falling in Reverse have sold a very impressive amount of tickets. Probably getting close to headliner levels. I went and checked because I was thinking "no way". Cannot see any lower than sub, and they actually seem like a big sub to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum97 Posted 55 minutes ago Report Share Posted 55 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said: Yeah, Falling in Reverse have sold a very impressive amount of tickets. Probably getting close to headliner levels. I went and checked because I was thinking "no way". Cannot see any lower than sub, and they actually seem like a big sub to me. Can see FiR and Bad Omens being two of the subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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