2025 R&L Festival

[charlierc]

I've never tried Strongbow Dark Fruits. I like Koppaberg and Rekorderlig products so would it be a similar thing to those?

[charlierc]

8 hours ago, RedJosh said:

However regarding Foos, I didn't say they are a dark fruits band, I said they fall into a category, along with dark fruits bands, as someone that will placate the dark fruits crowd (indie fans). Almost everyone I know that is an indie fan also likes the Foos.

Hmmm - I wouldn't say they're dark fruits in the same way others are, but I can see how somebody that likes that kind of music would be amiable to Foos as a bill-topper and that they do have a few songs in that territory. Guess it's a grey area.

 

Or it's me poking my nose into something I know f**k all about. One or the other.

[Andre91]

14 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I've never tried Strongbow Dark Fruits. I like Koppaberg and Rekorderlig products so would it be a similar thing to those?

No, not at all. Too refined. 

Edited November 2 by Andre91

[charlierc]

1 minute ago, Andre91 said:

No, not at all. Too refined. 

There is a blackcurrant and blackberry Rekorderlig, which I suspect is the closest given the ingredients on S:DF are concentrates of these two fruit juices.

 

But yes I can imagine it's not a dead ringer.

 

I prefer strawberry, pineapple or cherry ones anyway.

[andyrhodes24]

Peak dark fruits was about 2015-2018 when the likes of Courteeners, Catfish, Stone Roses, LG, Kasabian, Gerry Cinnamon were all active at the same time. It was a glorious time.

[NorthernSoul52]

Bin off the dark fruits, bring me some high quality TETLEY'S BEST BITTER and we'll whip this bill into shape.

[andyrhodes24]

1 hour ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Bin off the dark fruits, bring me some high quality TETLEY'S BEST BITTER and we'll whip this bill into shape.

Can we get a petition going for the bar to serve some kind of bitter? Preferably John Smith’s but I’ll take anything 😂

[NorthernSoul52]

Please. Just something that isn't larger or cider.

[Andre91]

Bring Me The Horizon / Chappell Roan / Lil Uzi Vert (special guest) / Enter Shikari 

 

Chase & Status / Central Cee / Blossoms 

 

Foo Fighters / Hozier / IDLES 

Edited November 3 by Andre91

[charlierc]

17 hours ago, andyrhodes24 said:

Peak dark fruits was about 2015-2018 when the likes of Courteeners, Catfish, Stone Roses, LG, Kasabian, Gerry Cinnamon were all active at the same time. It was a glorious time.

Tbf 2018 festival season was awesome full stop. There were some amazing acts on tour that year. I went to Mad Cool (if just a day pass) and Lolla Paris and think I could've gone further.

 

Although I will also note Lolla Paris had Catfish followed by Noel Gallagher. I missed the former and found the latter to be quite dull. Certainly made to look more dull than it was given the Nekfeu v Killers battle of the bands drama that followed.

[tomarchbold]

35 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Bring Me The Horizon / Chappell Roan / Lil Uzi Vert (special guest) / Enter Shikari 

 

Chase & Status / Central Cee / Blossoms 

 

Foo Fighters / Hozier / IDLES 

this actually looks banging (excluding cench), id be very happy with this personally

[tomarchbold]

42 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

Bring Me The Horizon / Chappell Roan / Lil Uzi Vert (special guest) / Enter Shikari 

 

Chase & Status / Central Cee / Blossoms 

 

Foo Fighters / Hozier / IDLES 

i think add gracie abrams and this is very likely

 

[Andre91]

31 minutes ago, tomarchbold said:

i think add gracie abrams and this is very likely

 

I’ve just had to search her on Spotify because I’ve never heard of her and I’ve listened to two of her songs and turns out I’ve heard them loads but thought they were Olivia Rodrigo songs 😂

[andyrhodes24]

2 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Please. Just something that isn't larger or cider.

Not only that, Carlsberg and Somersby are up there with the worst lagers and ciders of them all.

 

2 hours ago, Andre91 said:

Bring Me The Horizon / Chappell Roan / Lil Uzi Vert (special guest) / Enter Shikari 

 

Chase & Status / Central Cee / Blossoms 

 

Foo Fighters / Hozier / IDLES 

This would be an instant weekend ticket for me. It’s about time Idles played R&L again.

 

1 hour ago, charlierc said:

Tbf 2018 festival season was awesome full stop. There were some amazing acts on tour that year. I went to Mad Cool (if just a day pass) and Lolla Paris and think I could've gone further.

 

Although I will also note Lolla Paris had Catfish followed by Noel Gallagher. I missed the former and found the latter to be quite dull. Certainly made to look more dull than it was given the Nekfeu v Killers battle of the bands drama that followed.

2018 was a great year, thought R&L lineup was poor personally though. Courteeners leaked around then, there were some calls for them to headline like that’d ever happen. Seemed to be around then that Y Not, Truck etc really started to booked proper big names.

[Andre91]

2018 was guff. Only year I’ve gone for the day and not the weekend since 2011. 

[RandomEnglishPerson]

1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

2018 was guff. Only year I’ve gone for the day and not the weekend since 2011. 

but you have to say the Saturday of reading that year looked decent

Edited November 3 by RandomEnglishPerson

[Andre91]

17 minutes ago, RandomEnglishPerson said:

but you have to say the Saturday of reading that year looked decent

Which day was that? I went for the FOB, Travis Scott, Post Malone day (which ended up having a BMTH secret set). 

[andyrhodes24]

1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

2018 was guff. Only year I’ve gone for the day and not the weekend since 2011. 

I went home on the Sunday when it was torrential rain. The likes of Nerd and Dua Lipa didn’t entice me to stick around. Dua probably would these days mind. The Friday had Sleepy T and Sam Fender early on the pit and FR stages which is funny looking back.

[LazyDavid]

4 hours ago, Andre91 said:

Bring Me The Horizon / Chappell Roan / Lil Uzi Vert (special guest) / Enter Shikari

 

This would be great, even better when Uzi pulls out a few days before and they drag AJ Tracey or someone in

[northernangel]

2 hours ago, Andre91 said:

2018 was guff. Only year I’ve gone for the day and not the weekend since 2011. 

 

I think 2018 Kenny day is the best single day there since Green Day day in 2013 for me.

[FeverDream]

I didn’t really vibe with much on the 2018 lineup at the time. Only really saw a handful of people I was actually bothered about. But man, in hindsight, it’s a great lineup for me and far more on there that I listen to now versus 2018. Hindsight eh 😁

[Chad888]

On 11/2/2024 at 10:16 PM, charlierc said:

I've never tried Strongbow Dark Fruits. I like Koppaberg and Rekorderlig products so would it be a similar thing to those?

Imagine drinking a glass of ribena squash, but rather than 1:5 ribena to water, it's around 2 part ribena to 1 part water.

 

 

[Chad888]

2 hours ago, FeverDream said:

I didn’t really vibe with much on the 2018 lineup at the time. Only really saw a handful of people I was actually bothered about. But man, in hindsight, it’s a great lineup for me and far more on there that I listen to now versus 2018. Hindsight eh 😁

I did a calculation last year on lineups from 2003-present, I can't remember what it was based on — I think it was in hindsight who on the lineup has really increased their profile. I was tracking if the changes to the lineups and the way we consume music was having an affect on the lasting power of lineups. Like you look at say 2008 and think holy sh*t that was an amazing lineup, but at the time it was probably meh.

 

It found that 2018 was the lineup where the most artists had gone on to massively increase their profile from where they had played on the day.

 

Post Malone, Travis Scott, Dua Lipa, Playboi Carti, Sam Fender, AJ Tracy, Pendulum, PatD, Yungblud, Skepta, Lewis Capaldi, Courteeners, Wolf Alice all of those played undercard and can headline now, some can headline Glastonbury easily.

 

 

If you had this in 2025, it would be gone in a second:

 

MS: Kendrick Lamar // Sam Fender >> Panic at the Disco

Chevron: Lewis Capaldi >> Yungblud

 

MS: Dua Lipa // Post Malone >> Wolf Alice

Chevron: Courteeners >> Playboi Carti

 

MS: Kings of Leon // Travis Scott >> AJ Tracy

Chevron: Pendulum >> Skepta

 

Edited November 4 by Chad888

[King101]

1 hour ago, Chad888 said:

I did a calculation last year on lineups from 2003-present, I can't remember what it was based on — I think it was in hindsight who on the lineup has really increased their profile. I was tracking if the changes to the lineups and the way we consume music was having an affect on the lasting power of lineups. Like you look at say 2008 and think holy sh*t that was an amazing lineup, but at the time it was probably meh.

 

It found that 2018 was the lineup where the most artists had gone on to massively increase their profile from where they had played on the day.

 

Post Malone, Travis Scott, Dua Lipa, Playboi Carti, Sam Fender, AJ Tracy, Pendulum, PatD, Yungblud, Skepta, Lewis Capaldi, Courteeners, Wolf Alice all of those played undercard and can headline now, some can headline Glastonbury easily.

 

How did 2005 compare in the calculation?

That year had The Killers, QOTSA, Kings of Leon, Razorlight, Biffy, MCR, Kasabian, Arcade Fire and Arctic Monkeys on the undercard who all went on to headline within the next decade.

Also had Elbow, The National and LCD Soundsystem who would be in much more prominent slots now.

[FeverDream]

1 hour ago, Chad888 said:

If you had this in 2025, it would be gone in a second:

 

MS: Kendrick Lamar // Sam Fender >> Panic at the Disco

Chevron: Lewis Capaldi >> Yungblud

 

MS: Dua Lipa // Post Malone >> Wolf Alice

Chevron: Courteeners >> Playboi Carti

 

MS: Kings of Leon // Travis Scott >> AJ Tracy

Chevron: Pendulum >> Skepta

 

This feels like one of those insane EU festivals like Mad Cool where you look at it and think blimey, if only R&L could replicate.