2025 R&L Festival

[gfa]

The BMTH day has the standard undercard of the heavier day in recent years I'd argue.

 

Shikari as a well suited big support then a splattering of other names. Not really my area of expertise but i guess it lacks an older name?

[Chavmeisterdeluxe]

I think Papa Roach are destined for that day as they're doing August festivals 

[northernangel]

59 minutes ago, Chavmeisterdeluxe said:

I think Papa Roach are destined for that day as they're doing August festivals 

Would be a major disappointment to have Papa Roach that day but I guess I know people who would like it. The difference of them playing on the Chappell day would be me considering a day ticket

[Hart Attack]

Bring Me The Horizon

Charli XCX

Enter Shikari

Ashnikko

The Story So Far

Pale Waves

Bilmuri

Lambrini Girls

Origami Angel

[northernangel]

4 hours ago, Andre91 said:

Way more mainstream, isn’t she. Plus, I Prevail are dog sh*t and shouldn’t be as high at R&L as they are at DL. 

 

Doesn't really what what your view is on their quality, I Prevail would play higher than Ashnikko who subbed 3rd stage at Reading this year.

[Chad888]

Ticket sales going horrendously. A week on and we're still in initial release prices, nothing sold out, BMTH day hardly moving at all.

 

These are going to he dirt cheap to pick up come next year. I wonder if they'll do the 2023 desperation tactics of "convince 10 friends to come and we will give you a free ticket for next year".

 

I wonder if the poor sales are result of 6 to 3 headliners, 2nd stage headliners being displayed as big stage headliners, a poor undercard...

 

Or maybe people are just bored of spending all that money to get pissed in a wet and rainy field in middle England, and the rite of passage vibe is now your Ibiza holidays, Croatian festivals, and Instagram-able locations.

[CanWeRest]

The main fan base blew away at Leeds and are currently somewhere in the North York Moors trying to find their way back to civilization.

[Andre91]

25 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

Ticket sales going horrendously. A week on and we're still in initial release prices, nothing sold out, BMTH day hardly moving at all.

 

These are going to he dirt cheap to pick up come next year. I wonder if they'll do the 2023 desperation tactics of "convince 10 friends to come and we will give you a free ticket for next year".

 

I wonder if the poor sales are result of 6 to 3 headliners, 2nd stage headliners being displayed as big stage headliners, a poor undercard...

 

Or maybe people are just bored of spending all that money to get pissed in a wet and rainy field in middle England, and the rite of passage vibe is now your Ibiza holidays, Croatian festivals, and Instagram-able locations.

How do you know how sales are going, Chad? Genuinely question. What insight do you have to ticket sales that nobody else has?

[gfa]

Andre is right - how can you tell BMTH is barely moving vs the other two days!

 

Its all 1 tier price now i swear -  It doesn't say early bird £125 or tier 1 £125?

 

1 hour ago, Chad888 said:

Ticket sales going horrendously. A week on and we're still in initial release prices, nothing sold out, BMTH day hardly moving at all.

 

These are going to he dirt cheap to pick up come next year. I wonder if they'll do the 2023 desperation tactics of "convince 10 friends to come and we will give you a free ticket for next year".

 

I wonder if the poor sales are result of 6 to 3 headliners, 2nd stage headliners being displayed as big stage headliners, a poor undercard...

 

Or maybe people are just bored of spending all that money to get pissed in a wet and rainy field in middle England, and the rite of passage vibe is now your Ibiza holidays, Croatian festivals, and Instagram-able locations.

Ibiza for gcse / a level right of passage lol. I've heard it all - it is beyond expensive.

 

Most people I know did R&L or your Benidorms, Magaluf, Zante etc. Nobody goes to Ibiza aged 18 nowadays.

 

The croatian festivals are mostly dance festivals with an average age more late 20s i thought

[Andre91]

What 16 year old is going to Ibiza or Croatia 😂

 

The Chad being 50 plot thickens… 

Edited 3 hours ago by Andre91

[Andre91]

I’ve come to the conclusion that BMTH can’t open their set with YOUtopia. It would be a right damp squib of an opener. 

[wghennessy]

5 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

I’ve come to the conclusion that BMTH can’t open their set with YOUtopia. It would be a right damp squib of an opener. 

They'll open with Throne i think.

 

Alot of BMTH newer stuff has passed me by, just checked YOUtopia out, absolute tune haha

[Chad888]

2 hours ago, Andre91 said:

How do you know how sales are going, Chad? Genuinely question. What insight do you have to ticket sales that nobody else has?

 

I can't explain how it works as I don't understand the logistics, my wife's a marketing affiliates manager (I don't know what that means either).

 

One of her clients is a big supermarket that looked at introducing a mobile phone network to rival Tesco Mobile and she showed me before that you can look at the entire online marketing space and see how much different companies are spending on certain marketing campaigns, for reaching a certain audience, and how much ROI they are making in those campaigns.

 

I.e. I'm still interested in a festival but the lineup is meh, so asked her to do her magic and see how sales are going, whether they would introduce marketing campaigns to shift more tickets.

 

 

Bit of a jumbled sentence, I really don't know how it works.

 

Basically in the online space, whatever you advertise and market isn't private how much you spend, how much money you make - people like my wife analyse the data and develop marketing campaigns and advise clients to outbid on key words or avoid key words that other companies use.

[Chad888]

2 hours ago, gfa said:

Andre is right - how can you tell BMTH is barely moving vs the other two days!

 

Its all 1 tier price now i swear -  It doesn't say early bird £125 or tier 1 £125?

 

Ibiza for gcse / a level right of passage lol. I've heard it all - it is beyond expensive.

 

Most people I know did R&L or your Benidorms, Magaluf, Zante etc. Nobody goes to Ibiza aged 18 nowadays.

 

The croatian festivals are mostly dance festivals with an average age more late 20s i thought

 

I still class Ibiza in with those Greek parry islands tbh. I did Kavos at 16, Zante at 17 and that was pretty much the coming of age thing back then. 18 was Ibiza, and by the looks of it, 18 is still Ibiza and Magaluf, whilst people in their 20s are now Dubai.

[she bangs the drums]

3 hours ago, Chad888 said:

Ticket sales going horrendously. A week on and we're still in initial release prices, nothing sold out, BMTH day hardly moving at all.

 

These are going to he dirt cheap to pick up come next year. I wonder if they'll do the 2023 desperation tactics of "convince 10 friends to come and we will give you a free ticket for next year".

 

I wonder if the poor sales are result of 6 to 3 headliners, 2nd stage headliners being displayed as big stage headliners, a poor undercard...

 

Or maybe people are just bored of spending all that money to get pissed in a wet and rainy field in middle England, and the rite of passage vibe is now your Ibiza holidays, Croatian festivals, and Instagram-able locations.

I'm not surprised, I have spoken to about 40-50 people who usually attend between the ages of 21 and 50 and no one is going next year based on the line up and are looking at alternatives. 

 

A few of the young'uns in my office mentioned they are fans of Travis Scott and Chappell Roan, though none of them are willing to camp or travel to Wetherby from Manchester for one day.

 

 

[Andre91]

1 hour ago, Chad888 said:

 

I can't explain how it works as I don't understand the logistics, my wife's a marketing affiliates manager (I don't know what that means either).

 

One of her clients is a big supermarket that looked at introducing a mobile phone network to rival Tesco Mobile and she showed me before that you can look at the entire online marketing space and see how much different companies are spending on certain marketing campaigns, for reaching a certain audience, and how much ROI they are making in those campaigns.

 

I.e. I'm still interested in a festival but the lineup is meh, so asked her to do her magic and see how sales are going, whether they would introduce marketing campaigns to shift more tickets.

 

 

Bit of a jumbled sentence, I really don't know how it works.

 

Basically in the online space, whatever you advertise and market isn't private how much you spend, how much money you make - people like my wife analyse the data and develop marketing campaigns and advise clients to outbid on key words or avoid key words that other companies use.

That’s a lot of words to say you don’t know. 

[Chad888]

30 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

That’s a lot of words to say you don’t know. 

 

It doesn't say I don't know.

 

It says somebody that knows how marketing campaigns and ROI work has showed me the sales figures, but I don't understand how the magic trick they did works.