SZA

[Mardy]

27 minutes ago, km9 said:

Sorry if this has already been said, but imagine the outrage if a male headline act sung the lyrics "I might kill me ex".

Can we retrospectively cancel Johnny Cash for singing about murder, please? And lets not have that nasty Nick Cave back for heaven's sake 

 

 

edited, damn - beaten to it by @M42

Edited March 17 by Mardy
too slow, damn these fat fingers

[M42]

Just now, Mardy said:

Can we retrospectively cancel Johnny Cash for singing about murder, please? And lets not have that nasty Nick Cave back for heaven's sake 

It’s fine because they are white it seems.

Serious micro-aggressions on display if  “violence” is a reason try and slam the SZA booking. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

They should have pulled the plug when Elton started promoting street violence with Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting 

[Ayrshire Chris]

10 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Can we retrospectively cancel Johnny Cash for singing about murder, please? And lets not have that nasty Nick Cave back for heaven's sake 

 

 

edited, damn - beaten to it by @M42

And Tom Jones😉 ha ha ha ha 

Edited March 17 by Ayrshire Chris

[km9]

With the exception of Elton John, these artists HAVE all been criticised though, so I'm not sure that these arguments really stand up.  

[kpins]

Thr lyrics aren't great, saying she might kill her ex and his new partner cos she's jealous. With all the focus on domestic violence (thankfully) its not a great look. I think anyone who sings lyrics like this should, and does, get called out regardless of sex or colour. I totally appreciate that plenty of singers in the past have glorified violence in their lyrics, from rock music to rap music (which has also been particularly bad for extreme misogyny) so I don't think we need to go over the top on one person but I think we can still have concerns about lyrics like this when she has so many young fans. That's my money's worth 😉

Edited March 17 by kpins
Correction

[km9]

2 minutes ago, kpins said:

Thr lyrics aren't great, saying she might kill her ex and his new partner cos she's jealous. With all the focus on domestic violence (thankfully) its not a great look. I think anyone who sings lyrics like this should, and does, get called out regardless of sex or colour. I totally appreciate that plenty of singers in the past have glorified violence in their lyrics, from rock music to rap music (which has also been particularly bad for extreme misogyny) so I don't think we need to go over the top on one person but I think we can still have concerns about lyrics like this when she has so many young fans. That's my money's worth 😉

Sensible reply. Thank you 

[CaledonianGonzo]

If anything Kill Bill doesn't go far enough.

For example, she could sing about nailing her ex's goolies to the wall.

[kpins]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

If anything Kill Bill doesn't go far enough.

For example, she could sing about nailing her ex's goolies to the wall.

Why?

[Talcroft]

We binning Smack my B1tch Up then as well? 

(Still not a Sza fan but this is a proper non-argument) 

[kpins]

44 minutes ago, Talcroft said:

We binning Smack my B1tch Up then as well? 

(Still not a Sza fan but this is a proper non-argument) 

Think they'd get a bit more focus on that nowadays. Not great lyrics.

[HH46810]

Can still buy tickets for Hyde Park when you had Lana selling it out very quickly last year. Not a good look

[km9]

2 hours ago, Talcroft said:

We binning Smack my B1tch Up then as well? 

(Still not a Sza fan but this is a proper non-argument) 

You're missing the point. My point was that some sections of the media or public have a problem with lyrics such as smack my bitch up, baby it's cold outside etc, yet we have songs being released now with much more explicitly violent lyrics, which seems to be fine 

[Twiggy553]

1 hour ago, kpins said:

Think they'd get a bit more focus on that nowadays. Not great lyrics.

That was the desired effect (they essentially did it to rile up the media)

[Talcroft]

47 minutes ago, km9 said:

You're missing the point. My point was that some sections of the media or public have a problem with lyrics such as smack my bitch up, baby it's cold outside etc, yet we have songs being released now with much more explicitly violent lyrics, which seems to be fine 

I know, I'm being facetious. 

[SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot]

SZA singing about killing her ex and his new girl because she'd rather be in jail/hell than alone, isn't exactly an endorsement of such actions. Whole lotta pearl-clutching here.

[SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot]

On 3/16/2024 at 4:33 AM, NorthernSoul52 said:

On another note, in an opinion piece carrying the air of "contrary opinion" and a few mistakes here and there, The I's Emily Baker reckons that SZA is the only exciting slam dunk of the three.

https://inews.co.uk/culture/music/pop-stars-dont-respect-glastonbury-2956345

Interesting article... how realistic is it though that forthcoming headliners will bring a unique show to Glasto? 

[Ben7amin_]

KMB by the Nova Twins has entered the chat......

In reality I'm not sure people actually get as offended by song lyrics as they pretend to be. 

[guypjfreak]

It's a bloody song FFS...why do people have to micro manage everything they see or hear...your making your lives and the world a f**king minefield.. Just get on with it..

[km9]

Just now, guypjfreak said:

It's a bloody song FFS...why do people have to micro manage everything they see or hear...your making your lives and the world a f**king minefield.. Just get on with it..

Just to be clear, I'm pretty sure everyone here is saying the same thing

[4AssedMonkey]

18 hours ago, km9 said:

Sorry if this has already been said, but imagine the outrage if a male headline act sung the lyrics "I might kill me ex".

By that extension, any piece of art with a violent theme should be scrutinised and possibly cancelled.  That's thousands of books, huge swathes of paintings and sculpture, all horror/murder mystery/crime podcasts, films and TV series and quite a lot of music.

Grow up.  It's fictional.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

14 hours ago, HH46810 said:

Can still buy tickets for Hyde Park when you had Lana selling it out very quickly last year. Not a good look

To be fair that’s not exactly a fair comparison, it was Lana’s first UK date in 4 years & she rarely tours. 
 

Sza is doing it off the back of a massive tour last year that included 4 sold out nights at the 02. 

[km9]

58 minutes ago, 4AssedMonkey said:

By that extension, any piece of art with a violent theme should be scrutinised and possibly cancelled.  That's thousands of books, huge swathes of paintings and sculpture, all horror/murder mystery/crime podcasts, films and TV series and quite a lot of music.

Grow up.  It's fictional.

That is my point! It's happening 

[fakeplastictrees2000]

20 hours ago, km9 said:

Sorry if this has already been said, but imagine the outrage if a male headline act sung the lyrics "I might kill me ex".

shut up

[clasher]

3 minutes ago, fakeplastictrees2000 said:

shut up

You alright mate?